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22 Feb 2016, 1:27 pm

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The obvious inability of anyone to categorize the notion of what constitutes a fantasy based religious belief, and a religious belief that does not conform to 'fantasized belief' makes the original poster's proposition inherently futile.


Only the fully delusional or unintelligent cannot tell fantasy from reality.

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22 Feb 2016, 3:12 pm

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Lets all make a cause out of the fantasy that we can stamp out all "fantasy based religions".


Basically, that is what secular systems to do.

Note how secularism has developed much better laws than what imaginary Gods can come up with.

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Nonsense.

Secular governments make law with out regard to religion. Niether following nor opposing religious dictates. Only a tiny subset of secular governments (some Stalinist Communist regimes) actually attempted to stamp out religion.



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23 Feb 2016, 1:07 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Lets all make a cause out of the fantasy that we can stamp out all "fantasy based religions".


Basically, that is what secular systems to do.

Note how secularism has developed much better laws than what imaginary Gods can come up with.

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Nonsense.

Secular governments make law with out regard to religion. Niether following nor opposing religious dictates. Only a tiny subset of secular governments (some Stalinist Communist regimes) actually attempted to stamp out religion.


??

I did not say that secular governments created laws that are better than religious laws, to subvert or oppose religions.

It just happens that religious laws are inferior to secular law.

That is why you never hear of Christians being stupid enough to want to implement their religious law as the law of the land.

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23 Feb 2016, 6:05 pm

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I don't even care to know what a fantasy based religion is, but good luck banning it whatever it is.


Wow.

You cannot tell a fantasy with a supernatural base from reality?

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Yeah, it's a goddamn shame isnt it?
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23 Feb 2016, 8:43 pm

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The original post is rather scary.

"Lets forcibly ban all religions that I don't like" is the nub of what he is saying.


No. Only those based on fantasy as a human mind is too important to allow religious liars to have their way with it.

What is scary about advocating reality instead of fantasy as a belief system?

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Exactly!

Thats what I said.

you're advocating stamping out any religion you don't like. Like the Ayotallah.



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24 Feb 2016, 2:10 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
^

The original post is rather scary.

"Lets forcibly ban all religions that I don't like" is the nub of what he is saying.


No. Only those based on fantasy as a human mind is too important to allow religious liars to have their way with it.

What is scary about advocating reality instead of fantasy as a belief system?

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Exactly!

Thats what I said.

you're advocating stamping out any religion you don't like. Like the Ayotallah.


Anyone can just define any creed that they dont like as being "fantasy based", and then outlaw it.

The least you could do is tell us what you mean by "fantasy based religion".



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24 Feb 2016, 3:14 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
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naturalplastic wrote:
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The original post is rather scary.

"Lets forcibly ban all religions that I don't like" is the nub of what he is saying.


No. Only those based on fantasy as a human mind is too important to allow religious liars to have their way with it.

What is scary about advocating reality instead of fantasy as a belief system?

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Exactly!

Thats what I said.

you're advocating stamping out any religion you don't like. Like the Ayotallah.


Bull s**t and bite me. Go away till you learn how to read.

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24 Feb 2016, 3:18 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
^

The original post is rather scary.

"Lets forcibly ban all religions that I don't like" is the nub of what he is saying.


No. Only those based on fantasy as a human mind is too important to allow religious liars to have their way with it.

What is scary about advocating reality instead of fantasy as a belief system?

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Exactly!

Thats what I said.

you're advocating stamping out any religion you don't like. Like the Ayotallah.


Anyone can just define any creed that they dont like as being "fantasy based", and then outlaw it.

The least you could do is tell us what you mean by "fantasy based religion".


No. The fantasy would have to be shown.

Like the fantasy of an invisible absentee sky God, or of a God who creates talking snakes and donkeys of offers us a bunch of virgins after we die.

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24 Feb 2016, 3:57 pm

GnosticBishop wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Anyone can just define any creed that they dont like as being "fantasy based", and then outlaw it.

The least you could do is tell us what you mean by "fantasy based religion".

No. The fantasy would have to be shown.

Like the fantasy of an invisible absentee sky God, or of a God who creates talking snakes and donkeys of offers us a bunch of virgins after we die.

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The Eastern religions of Hinduism and Buddhism involve many talking snakes and other types of serpents... they even have their own species...the Nāga.

Furthermore, the Chandogya Upanishad (one of the most central texts in Hinduism, and the primary source of the concept of Ahimsa (non-violence) central to Buddhist and Jain thought) even specifically features a talking bull, a talking fire, a talking swan and a talking diver bird (chapters V to VIII).

Yet you claimed this in your original post...

The one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject wrote:
The Eastern religions, notably some forms of Buddhism are superior.

In other words, your definition of a "fantasy religion" appears to be completely arbitrary...



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24 Feb 2016, 4:20 pm

GGPViper wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Anyone can just define any creed that they dont like as being "fantasy based", and then outlaw it.

The least you could do is tell us what you mean by "fantasy based religion".

No. The fantasy would have to be shown.

Like the fantasy of an invisible absentee sky God, or of a God who creates talking snakes and donkeys of offers us a bunch of virgins after we die.

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The Eastern religions of Hinduism and Buddhism involve many talking snakes and other types of serpents... they even have their own species...the Nāga.

Furthermore, the Chandogya Upanishad (one of the most central texts in Hinduism, and the primary source of the concept of Ahimsa (non-violence) central to Buddhist and Jain thought) even specifically features a talking bull, a talking fire, a talking swan and a talking diver bird (chapters V to VIII).

Yet you claimed this in your original post...

The one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject wrote:
The Eastern religions, notably some forms of Buddhism are superior.

In other words, your definition of a "fantasy religion" appears to be completely arbitrary...


The Buddhism I know promotes seeking knowledge and wisdom, as does Gnostic Christianity. No sky daddies, thanks.

And from what I know of the other Eastern religions, most do not take them literally. If some do, then I include them under the term fantasy based religions.

The fantasy based religions, like Christianity and Islam are immoral creeds and the West deserves better.

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24 Feb 2016, 5:00 pm

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And from what I know of the other Eastern religions, most do not take them literally.

And only 28 percent of Americans take the Christian Bible literally.

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Source: http://www.gallup.com/poll/170834/three ... d-god.aspx

Like I said: Your definition of a "fantasy religion" appears to be completely arbitrary...



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24 Feb 2016, 7:56 pm

GGPViper wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
And from what I know of the other Eastern religions, most do not take them literally.

And only 28 percent of Americans take the Christian Bible literally.

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Source: http://www.gallup.com/poll/170834/three ... d-god.aspx

Like I said: Your definition of a "fantasy religion" appears to be completely arbitrary...


Strange that only 28% believe in a real Jesus yet 70 odd % believe in a real Stan.

Why are so many praying to Jesus for their salvation then and what are the rest doing about their salvation?

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