He was being unamerican. Next time we might have to kill him

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14 Mar 2016, 8:15 pm

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Okay, I admit, I completely misread the cat headed nurse' post about the 78 year old Parkinson's patient. :oops: I, for some reason, thought she was referring to Bernie making animated gestures as he spoke. But in my defense, I can't imagine anyone seriously defending a person who commits unprovoked, physical assault.


Trump could shoot someone point blank and Nurseangela and AntDog would still post their "Go Trump" nonsense. All I can say is if they're not using ctrl-c, then ctrl-v, they're setting themselves up for some serious carpal tunnel syndrome.


Trump said as much about his supporters even overlooking his shooting someone. Says something about his supporters, me thinks.


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14 Mar 2016, 8:21 pm

Trump crafts his message with a purpose, this is how he will win.



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14 Mar 2016, 8:22 pm

he could tell his supporters to mellow out. :idea:



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14 Mar 2016, 10:16 pm

^ What fun would that be?


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14 Mar 2016, 10:32 pm

Won't be fun anymore if someone dies.


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14 Mar 2016, 10:59 pm

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Won't be fun anymore if someone dies.

for some folk nowadays, I wouldn't be so sure. these are nasty times.



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14 Mar 2016, 11:10 pm

Trump's supporters are not the one's being confrontational, if there is violence it will be initiated by the other side

think about how dangerous of situation that was in Chicago, there were thousands of people there confronted by another large antagonistic if not openly aggressive group. That is not a peaceful protest, what the hell is the definition of violent protest then? Do they need to kill somebody first? One of these freaks took a run at Trump the very next day, they were interviewing this idiot on CNN a day or so later like he was some kind of hero. Bernie supporter by the way. There is violent rhetoric right but not by Trump but rather his detractors who will do anything to defeat him. Calling somebody a fascist or Hitler is inciting violence, what do you think the reaction to that is? We're not stupid, I know you see this crazy double standard, and even tho you can't admit it the media can no longer control the media like they use to.

Now personally I think if people want to fight let them fight, when you let people go at it they get the idea that it is pretty stupid pretty quickly. At least one of them does.

Protest Trump events all you want but trying to shut them down is authoritarian, that is silencing dissent and nothing to do with freedom and is the initiation of force into the situation. You can only poke the bear so long.



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14 Mar 2016, 11:23 pm

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Won't be fun anymore if someone dies.

for some folk nowadays, I wouldn't be so sure. these are nasty times.


Anne Coulter says Trump's supporters should be even more violent.


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14 Mar 2016, 11:25 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
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Won't be fun anymore if someone dies.

for some folk nowadays, I wouldn't be so sure. these are nasty times.


Anne Coulter says Trump's supporters should be even more violent.

what a piece of work she is. :eew:



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14 Mar 2016, 11:31 pm

Trump is a big believer in seizing people's private property for profits.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/vol ... nt-domain/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Coking


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14 Mar 2016, 11:33 pm

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Trump's supporters are not the one's being confrontational, if there is violence it will be initiated by the other side

think about how dangerous of situation that was in Chicago, there were thousands of people there confronted by another large antagonistic if not openly aggressive group. That is not a peaceful protest, what the hell is the definition of violent protest then? Do they need to kill somebody first? One of these freaks took a run at Trump the very next day, they were interviewing this idiot on CNN a day or so later like he was some kind of hero. Bernie supporter by the way. There is violent rhetoric right but not by Trump but rather his detractors who will do anything to defeat him. Calling somebody a fascist or Hitler is inciting violence, what do you think the reaction to that is? We're not stupid, I know you see this crazy double standard, and even tho you can't admit it the media can no longer control the media like they use to.

Now personally I think if people want to fight let them fight, when you let people go at it they get the idea that it is pretty stupid pretty quickly. At least one of them does.

Protest Trump events all you want but trying to shut them down is authoritarian, that is silencing dissent and nothing to do with freedom and is the initiation of force into the situation. You can only poke the bear so long.


When my family and I attended the last Gay Pride Parade in downtown Spokane, there were protesters who were shouting ugly homophobic things, and holding up signs reading hateful, indefensible things. But no one slugged any of them, or attacked them in any way. No, instead the parade participants - along with much of the onlookers on the street - burst out in song to drowned them out. I imagine something like that would occur if Trump's Trumpeters crashed a Bernie rally. Why can't the Trumpeters just do something like that? Trust me, nothing can defuse a protest better than the initial supporters singing, laughing, or clapping said protesters into silence. Especially in a case like a Trump rally, where the audience way outnumbers the protesters.


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14 Mar 2016, 11:35 pm

i'm hoping the various political meetings start having better security.



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14 Mar 2016, 11:41 pm

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Trump is a big believer in seizing people's private property for profits.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/vol ... nt-domain/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Coking


Knowing that, imagine now the full power of the Presidency at his fingertips.


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14 Mar 2016, 11:44 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Trump's supporters are not the one's being confrontational, if there is violence it will be initiated by the other side

think about how dangerous of situation that was in Chicago, there were thousands of people there confronted by another large antagonistic if not openly aggressive group. That is not a peaceful protest, what the hell is the definition of violent protest then? Do they need to kill somebody first? One of these freaks took a run at Trump the very next day, they were interviewing this idiot on CNN a day or so later like he was some kind of hero. Bernie supporter by the way. There is violent rhetoric right but not by Trump but rather his detractors who will do anything to defeat him. Calling somebody a fascist or Hitler is inciting violence, what do you think the reaction to that is? We're not stupid, I know you see this crazy double standard, and even tho you can't admit it the media can no longer control the media like they use to.

Now personally I think if people want to fight let them fight, when you let people go at it they get the idea that it is pretty stupid pretty quickly. At least one of them does.

Protest Trump events all you want but trying to shut them down is authoritarian, that is silencing dissent and nothing to do with freedom and is the initiation of force into the situation. You can only poke the bear so long.


When my family and I attended the last Gay Pride Parade in downtown Spokane, there were protesters who were shouting ugly homophobic things, and holding up signs reading hateful, indefensible things. But no one slugged any of them, or attacked them in any way. No, instead the parade participants - along with much of the onlookers on the street - burst out in song to drowned them out. I imagine something like that would occur if Trump's Trumpeters crashed a Bernie rally. Why can't the Trumpeters just do something like that? Trust me, nothing can defuse a protest better than the initial supporters singing, laughing, or clapping said protesters into silence. Especially in a case like a Trump rally, where the audience way outnumbers the protesters.


That is not the equivalent, it would be like people trying to block the road at one of these gay pride parades you enjoy so much. It's not a protest, it's is a suppression of dissent and of opinions you do not like. Protest outside the building all you want but this organized campaign to disrupt Trump rallies is not a legitimate form of protest.

Like I said, Trump supporters are not being the confrontational ones and I think people should hope it stays that way because what else can someone do but fight fire with fire?

It's all stupid really, these dumbies have overplayed their hand don't realize they're helping Trump, I've seen this before.



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15 Mar 2016, 12:34 am

The Truth!

At any political function in the US that has Secret Service protection, protests are illegal. It is a ten years in jail Federal Felony.

Disrupting the election is forbidden.

This includes people going to or coming from the function. It is like attacking people wearing political buttons on their way to the polls to vote.

There is a Constitutional Right of the People to Assemble. Disrupting lawful gatherings is not Free Speech.

The guy that jumped the White House fence in protest got seventeen months. He did not disrupt an election.

Using violence, or the threat of violence, to disrupt or alter a political outcome, defines Terrorism.

If you do not know that about the American System, you should go back to Civics Class. If you do not care, you should go back to Stalin's Russia, or Africa.



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15 Mar 2016, 1:47 am

If someone dies? Or when?

There was a picture of a woman in chicago wearing trump, trump buttons, etc doing a heil salute. She was identified by name in the paper, but right away, trump jr tweets that it's this imposter - another woman who is a bernie supporter. And tweets this other woman's full name (Portia ...).

Portia is a bernie activist, but is very small potatoes, so why or how she's even on trump's radar is curious. Regardless, despite the fact that the woman in the picture Was a trump supporter, has been interviewed on local news, as well as national papers of why she did it (with video and photos), and the fact that portia currently has short hair and backing of her whereabouts that night (which shouldn't be needed), she continues to get death threats and constant harassment on her social media - including having her home address repeatedly posted.

All portia is guilty of is being a bernie supporter, and looking somewhat like the woman when her hair was longer. She gets 'outed' by a trump jr for something she never did and she's public enemy #2. Meanwhile, instead of an apology, trump jr just deletes the tweet.

Then you have the guy who tried to get on stage with trump. Shortly after, trump tweeted that the guy "has ties to isis"(the tweet is still up). Why? A really crappy video on youtube that was modified from one of his own videos. As cnn said, arabic music overlaying a video does not an isis supporter make. (And it was a poor job at that).

The guy was released on small bail, because apparently in worlds other than trump's head, he has nothing to do with isis. But now, he and his family are receiving death threats. Guilty of: trying to get on stage with trump..supposedly to call him a racist or something. Isis evidence: one crappy homemade altered video. But based on that, trump tweets it as as fact.

And,when asked about it in an interview, even trump says, well i can't say he is or isn't (while his tweet states he factually is).." I only know what's on the internet."

He's running for President - Not a rockstar or some quasi public eye thing, the leader of an entire country; and he not only throws his own, constant, deep hyperbole around as fact, he and his son are posting peoples' names with stated crimes they did not commit, based on zero evidence. And now those people get death threats..

So, aside from how in the world is that remotely responsible or the action of someone fit to be a president, or how will he discern and *validate* any information that crosses the president's desk - Chicago was inevitable. Someone getting killed isn't much further along. I would've hoped at least having rubio, kasich, and cruz all calling him on it would at least make him pause. However, he knows exactly what he's doing.


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