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once again pofolk are NOT all "freeloaders" every time some rightie drags out that tired old rightie trope, I will offer a correction.

so you are calling me a freeloader also? you saying I don't pay any taxes? HAH! my taxes also pay towards the roads that rich people are driven on. my taxes also pay towards a bloated military-industrial complex that causes so much mischief in this world. so, who is subsidizing whom? taxes supply fundage that goes up as well as down, but righties complain only about the "down" part. taxes are NOT theft but the necessary cost of living in a civilized society and not the wild west. other western nations look at us amuuricans STILL arguing about this, in disgusted wonderment. as they say, east is east, west is west, and never the twain shall meet.

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As per my previous post, it was not a personal attack nor is the entire Republican vote, or third party vote an attack on you and others in your circumstance.

I didn't call you a freeloader. My post understand that people sometimes cannot support themselves but that doesn't mean they should be entitled to others support.

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You're normally civil.
Not a personal attack.
Decisions and life choices that you don't like aren't necessarily personal attacks. No need to tar with same brush.

Not sure how to word any better.

For the record I also believe taxes are necessary but if you make a premium mandatory on a person and price them out of putting food on their own table after working 2-3 jobs a week don't be surprised if they say "no thanks". No one should have to endure that much struggle for health care or basic entitlements.

Might sound hyperbolic but the new increases (if the old premiums haven't done it already) will accomplish that. I know as a worker I wouldn't want that on another person.

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not all of us have the luxury of "life choices" - for a lot of us it is just the next boiling pot we land in after getting chased from place to place, that is what it is like to not be middle-class. no choice in the matter, poverty-level wages, taking what one can find that nobody else wants. it is NOT the dems that are trying here and there to cheat me out of my vote. it is NOT the dems who [for a century now] have refused to reform our health care delivery system so that the working class can also partake of it. it is the GOP that have arranged things so that PPACA is the mangling kludge that it is, they are the ones setting us all apart in a Darwinian survival contest, winner-take the crumbs while the GOP laughs all the way to the bank. If the GOP had been WILLING to help out [and not just block everything] even just a bit, we might now have something better like SINGLE PAYER which would genuinely cover us ALL without any of the nastiness you have had to go through. various people have said that American can do the right thing but only after doing all the wrong things first.

Single Payer would be something we can both agree on.

single payer, what a concept, just like every other western nation. the insurance companies are the biggest inefficiency in our system next to the bureaucracy meant to keep the insurance companies honest. but deep in the bowels of the PPACA is a section meant to encourage states to experiment with improvements such as local single payer, Vermont is one that has gone and done it. Colorado is tiptoeing around the edge of doing likewise, we'll see next week if they take the plunge as well.