SJW - What would be a good literal name for them?

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I'm in favor of secularism in school and government. Sure, knowledge of a holiday is part of education, but celebrating it is something people should do in their own time.

You know, not everyone will be able to. Especially now with money tighter than ever. The school may be their only chance. What's next, do we stop people giving Christmas cards and presents to each other at school? Do we punish people for saying Merry Christmas to each other?

Personal expressions are a matter of free speech. Teacher directed activities represent the state. I don't accept that celebrating holidays requires money. Just visit India and see what they do without cash.

Would teacher activities represent the state if every school was free to make their own choices on the matter?

I will say I loathe the commercialisation of Christmas.

I don't know how schools are funded in Australia, but in the US, they are funded by taxes, so you can't just declare them to be free to do what they want. There are laws about the separation of church and state activities. A privately funded school could do whatever they want within reason, but you have to pay to enroll there.

These are all-too-common behaviors of political propagandists of all kinds, especially the more fanatical ones, both left and right.



Like it or not, "identity politics" is now, has always been, and always will be a fact of life in politics. What does change is WHICH identities are most prominently in play. For example, Protestants vs. Catholics used to be a big big deal; not so much anymore. Here in NYC, there used to be a lot of identity politics involving the Irish. (Our annual St. Patrick's Day parade is a relic of that time.)



Nothing new here either, and again they pertain to political fanatics of all kinds on both the left and the right. Just call them "groupthink", "absolutes", and "dogma". If you feel a need to subsume all these behaviors under one label, perhaps "fanaticism" will suffice?

Anyhow, although identity politics per se is nothing new, and neither is fanaticism, some things ARE new, including:

(1) We all can bump into political ideologues more easily and directly, thanks to the Internet. (Previously, for most people at least, the mainstream mass media acted as gateways.)

(2) Here in the U.S.A., thanks in part to the above, both the Republican and Democratic parties have become more polarized. The increasing polarization is also due in part to a century-plus-long realignment that has finally run its course. (150 years ago, the Republicans were the left-wingers and the Democrats were the right-wingers, rather than vice versa as they are today.)



Yes, overbearing "political correctness" in academia can indeed be a real problem insofar as it creates a climate of fear on at least some campuses and in at least a few other places. I happen to agree with many of the social changes that the campus left-wingers are calling for; they just need to happen in a way that encourages, rather than discourages, critical thinking and freedom of thought.

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Am I an SJW?

Definitly not

Because it's politically incorrect to use the term "international Jew" these days.

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Considering that the term "social justice warrior" was concocted by racists, xenophobes, and misogynists as an epithet to denigrate anyone who opposes their bigotry, I'm quite happy to be an SJW, and greatly prefer being an SJW to the alternative.
I'd love to have it in big letters on a T-shirt, but only if it comes in 'Antifa' colors!

Origin of far-right insult; "social justice warrior"

> SJW - What Would Be A Good Literal Name For Them?

I always thought "Marxist memebot" had a certain ring to it, although "Maoist memebot" might be more accurate.

If the SJWs were Jewish they wouldn't side with the Muslims. Jews and Muslims don't exactly get along.

Come to think of it, when have the Jews ever embraced Marxism? They were against the communization of Russia. The Soviets weren't kind to them either. If they were running the show they wouldn't have been so cruel to themselves.

What ever name will give them it will quickly will quickly lose its specific meaning and turn into a generic insult meaning "anyone who disagrees with me".

They are indeed, SJW identifies the ideology as well as behaviour all in one neat package, but it can be used for other groups as well if their behaviour is the same if you identify the group (eg. alt-right SJWs)

The thing is, I don't think of these things as identity politics. You're not WRONG, but these are simply single groups trying to elevate themselves above others. And yes, that will probably go on until the end of time. With the SJW identity politics, they take lots and lots of groups and rank them, the "progressive stack". They want to effect change across all aspects of society.

Fanaticism doesn't do it for me, because SJWs are just different even if there is significant overlap. When I was dealing with SJWs before I had a name for them, after a while I was strongly reminded of Islamic fanatics. Knowing about fanatics doesn't help you deal with SJWs. You need to know about SJWs to be able to deal with them effectively, and so you need a name for them.

It also helps the radicals gather and organise.

I guess you'd need to elaborate on the changes you're thinking of, but if change occurs organically, that's usually fine. Legalisation of gay marriage for instance was an organic change, campaigners got the masses broadly onside and got what they wanted with the support of the people. The SJWs though are forcing it through.

Your username doesn't hold any meaning for me, you haven't left an impression on me yet. But while I've seen the occasional post on here that has got my SJW alarm bells ringing, there is no one on this site that I think is an SJW.