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25 Nov 2016, 4:25 pm
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25 Nov 2016, 4:41 pm
25 Nov 2016, 5:10 pm
Campin_Cat wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Campin_Cat wrote:
Earthbound wrote:
However.. that one guy recently- I think it was in North Carolina. He killed several people and had insane amounts of stuff hoarded away.
If you're referring to the Dylann Roof killing, in South Carolina, AFAIK, he did NOT have "insane amounts of stuff hoarded away"----he owned ONE gun, that he bought for the specific purpose, with money he had been given, for his birthday.
As for "insane amounts of stuff hoarded away": Most often, the way an anti-guns person defines this amount, is merely what a gun-enthusiast would use in less than a DAY, at the shooting-range.
It's the threat of anti-gun and ammo legislation of the kind Earthbound wants that has triggered and sustained most of the hoarding he is complaining about.
Oh, TOTALLY!!
Also, it never ceases to amaze me that some people think banning something, will get-rid of it----AND that, most-often, the people who are the "You're not the boss of me"-type, are the very same people who want to boss-around, everybody ELSE!!
Yes, like I or anyone else with a pair (figuratively or literally) will just go "give up" thier guns that they have thousands invested in and have a right to own. I think they also believe that guns lose their "power" over time like batteries. Some seem to believe old guns are less powerful and will someday just wilt away. Honesty, I've actually had conversations with people that seem to believe just that.
Someone wrote up a lengthy post on one of the gun message boards (I forget which) that credited the proliferation of assault rifles
, in this case the ubiquitous AR-15, with legislation to ban them. The Colt AR-15 was introduced to the civilian market in 1963 and the carbine version, the CAR-15 with the short barrel and telescoping butstock so common now, was indroduced in 1966. They did not become common until threats of banning them started. Older range officers at shooting ranges will tell you that AR's were rare on any shooting range at one time but now dominate the firing lines on just about all shooting ranges. In a nutshell, we can thank the anti-gun left for all of the AR-15's/M4's and other scary looking weapons now in circulation and they aint going away. I could write pages on this alone.
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25 Nov 2016, 6:49 pm
Raptor wrote:
Campin_Cat wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Campin_Cat wrote:
Earthbound wrote:
However.. that one guy recently- I think it was in North Carolina. He killed several people and had insane amounts of stuff hoarded away.
If you're referring to the Dylann Roof killing, in South Carolina, AFAIK, he did NOT have "insane amounts of stuff hoarded away"----he owned ONE gun, that he bought for the specific purpose, with money he had been given, for his birthday.
As for "insane amounts of stuff hoarded away": Most often, the way an anti-guns person defines this amount, is merely what a gun-enthusiast would use in less than a DAY, at the shooting-range.
It's the threat of anti-gun and ammo legislation of the kind Earthbound wants that has triggered and sustained most of the hoarding he is complaining about.
Oh, TOTALLY!!
Also, it never ceases to amaze me that some people think banning something, will get-rid of it----AND that, most-often, the people who are the "You're not the boss of me"-type, are the very same people who want to boss-around, everybody ELSE!!
Yes, like I or anyone else with a pair (figuratively or literally) will just go "give up" thier guns that they have thousands invested in and have a right to own. I think they also believe that guns lose their "power" over time like batteries. Some seem to believe old guns are less powerful and will someday just wilt away. Honesty, I've actually had conversations with people that seem to believe just that.
Someone wrote up a lengthy post on one of the gun message boards (I forget which) that credited the proliferation of assault rifles
, in this case the ubiquitous AR-15, with legislation to ban them. The Colt AR-15 was introduced to the civilian market in 1963 and the carbine version, the CAR-15 with the short barrel and telescoping butstock so common now, was indroduced in 1966. They did not become common until threats of banning them started. Older range officers at shooting ranges will tell you that AR's were rare on any shooting range at one time but now dominate the firing lines on just about all shooting ranges. In a nutshell, we can thank the anti-gun left for all of the AR-15's/M4's and other scary looking weapons now in circulation and they aint going away. I could write pages on this alone.
FWIW, I pointed out on another board that I frequent on a thread about the Fear mongering about AR-15's that the .32 Cal pistol still holds the record for the sheer amount of homicides.
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25 Nov 2016, 7:47 pm
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25 Nov 2016, 7:51 pm
25 Nov 2016, 9:56 pm
Campin_Cat wrote:
Oh, yeah----I would give almost anything to be able to buy about TEN of 'em, and then sell, like, 5 of 'em after an incident, and make a boat-load of profit.
Heh, I almost did that this year, thinking, like everyone else, that HRC was a lock and the prices would skyrocket after the election. Good think I'm cautious by nature, would have lost my shirt.
25 Nov 2016, 10:06 pm
25 Nov 2016, 10:08 pm
25 Nov 2016, 10:11 pm
sly279 wrote:
Yep I and many gun owners even democrat gun owners voted trump mainly over the fact Hilary and her democrat friends are super anti gun and ranted over and over about their horrible plans to strip the 2nd amendment to be worthless
You didn't have to worry. Hillary would have protected you.
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26 Nov 2016, 1:41 am
Darmok wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Yep I and many gun owners even democrat gun owners voted trump mainly over the fact Hilary and her democrat friends are super anti gun and ranted over and over about their horrible plans to strip the 2nd amendment to be worthless
You didn't have to worry. Hillary would have protected you.
Well, those are Native Americans, not white Americans. Who on the right are obsessed with keeping the guns in the hands of Non-Whites when they are attacked by whites?
26 Nov 2016, 2:06 am
26 Nov 2016, 2:08 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
Darmok wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Yep I and many gun owners even democrat gun owners voted trump mainly over the fact Hilary and her democrat friends are super anti gun and ranted over and over about their horrible plans to strip the 2nd amendment to be worthless
You didn't have to worry. Hillary would have protected you.
Well, those are Native Americans, not white Americans. Who on the right are obsessed with keeping the guns in the hands of Non-Whites when they are attacked by whites?
We support the right of all United States citizens to own guns and defend themselves. Gun owners are of all races, backgrounds ,gender and sexual preferences. Lots of gays became gun owners after Florida. The left on.y attacks the very people they claim to defend its sickening
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26 Nov 2016, 2:15 am
sly279 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Darmok wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Yep I and many gun owners even democrat gun owners voted trump mainly over the fact Hilary and her democrat friends are super anti gun and ranted over and over about their horrible plans to strip the 2nd amendment to be worthless
You didn't have to worry. Hillary would have protected you.
Well, those are Native Americans, not white Americans. Who on the right are obsessed with keeping the guns in the hands of Non-Whites when they are attacked by whites?
We support the right of all United States citizens to own guns and defend themselves. Gun owners are of all races, backgrounds ,gender and sexual preferences. Lots of gays became gun owners after Florida. The left on.y attacks the very people they claim to defend its sickening
As a matter of fact, the messiah of the right, Ronald Reagan, had fought for laws keeping guns out of the hands of civil rights activists, based on fear of armed Black Panthers. Even before that, racist legislation had kept guns out of the hands of blacks while favoring armed whites.
26 Nov 2016, 2:36 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Darmok wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Yep I and many gun owners even democrat gun owners voted trump mainly over the fact Hilary and her democrat friends are super anti gun and ranted over and over about their horrible plans to strip the 2nd amendment to be worthless
You didn't have to worry. Hillary would have protected you.
Well, those are Native Americans, not white Americans. Who on the right are obsessed with keeping the guns in the hands of Non-Whites when they are attacked by whites?
We support the right of all United States citizens to own guns and defend themselves. Gun owners are of all races, backgrounds ,gender and sexual preferences. Lots of gays became gun owners after Florida. The left on.y attacks the very people they claim to defend its sickening
As a matter of fact, the messiah of the right, Ronald Reagan, had fought for laws keeping guns out of the hands of civil rights activists, based on fear of armed Black Panthers. Even before that, racist legislation had kept guns out of the hands of blacks while favoring armed whites.
Ronald regan isn't a messiah of the right. He's a well respected president due to his term in offfice coinciding with the unavoidable collapse of the Soviet Union. He's speech "tear down this wall" is what he's mostly known for.
Democrats started gun control right after the slaves were freed to you guess it prevent black folks from having their civil rights. Now democrats push it to deprive minority's and poor people from having their rights, they believe only rich white democrats should have rights not the gutter folk. They do declare as democrats use to say.
Well as a poor minority(disabled) I say f that to the democrats who think they're so much better and more important then me. They aren't and their life isn't any more valuable then mine or homeless people. Heck I'd probably save a homeless person before helping any of thos democrat politicians.
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26 Nov 2016, 2:55 am
sly279 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Darmok wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Yep I and many gun owners even democrat gun owners voted trump mainly over the fact Hilary and her democrat friends are super anti gun and ranted over and over about their horrible plans to strip the 2nd amendment to be worthless
You didn't have to worry. Hillary would have protected you.
Well, those are Native Americans, not white Americans. Who on the right are obsessed with keeping the guns in the hands of Non-Whites when they are attacked by whites?
We support the right of all United States citizens to own guns and defend themselves. Gun owners are of all races, backgrounds ,gender and sexual preferences. Lots of gays became gun owners after Florida. The left on.y attacks the very people they claim to defend its sickening
As a matter of fact, the messiah of the right, Ronald Reagan, had fought for laws keeping guns out of the hands of civil rights activists, based on fear of armed Black Panthers. Even before that, racist legislation had kept guns out of the hands of blacks while favoring armed whites.
Ronald regan isn't a messiah of the right. He's a well respected president due to his term in offfice coinciding with the unavoidable collapse of the Soviet Union. He's speech "tear down this wall" is what he's mostly known for.
Democrats started gun control right after the slaves were freed to you guess it prevent black folks from having their civil rights. Now democrats push it to deprive minority's and poor people from having their rights, they believe only rich white democrats should have rights not the gutter folk. They do declare as democrats use to say.
Well as a poor minority(disabled) I say f that to the democrats who think they're so much better and more important then me. They aren't and their life isn't any more valuable then mine or homeless people. Heck I'd probably save a homeless person before helping any of thos democrat politicians.
Trust me, more than enough conservatives see Reagan as their messiah, to the point of forgetting his bipartisanship with getting things done, and his personal friendship with Tip O'neil, and mis-imagining him as refusing to work across the aisles.
And those Democrats who had deprived freed blacks of owning guns were the conservative wing of the Democratic party, which after liberal Democratic civil rights legislation, and the machinations of the Nixon and Reagan administrations, became Republicans.
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