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12 Jan 2017, 7:02 pm

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Well, except for the whole WW I and WW II and gas chambers thing, yeah.

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I wouldn't put it past Europe to have another major bloodletting before its all over.

But hey, at least they have "free" healthcare.
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13 Jan 2017, 5:48 am

It's pretty funny to read bizarre, messy and violent, considering Europe's history. It's only been since the latter 20th century they've managed to live in civility with each other. No doubt thanks the America's involvement in WWII.

I'd rather have Europe's "free" healthcare system, than Obamacare at roughly $10,000 per year including the deductible.

I mean are the taxes for European free healthcare in excess of the equivalent of $10,000 per year?

I think Europe and Canada and Australia are mighty fortunate, whilst most Americas remain screwed.



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13 Jan 2017, 6:07 am

the rest of the civilized world insures broad-based uniform funding for health care/universal care via centralized taxation. in amuurica we do it the opposite way, the most perverse way imaginable, by saying to the disposable working class, "tough beans, go away and die quickly" and to the underclass "you must go to the ER which is the most expensive kind of care, but we won't bill you because we know we can't squeeze blood from your turniphood" - and to the middle class, "and YOU will pay for it ALL!" what I find that nobody has any answer for, is why the working class is made the scapegoat here?



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13 Jan 2017, 7:18 am

Healthcare was bankrupting people before ACA, not only were rates climbing, the benefits would often cap when someone truly needed it, leaving them to pay large hospital bills.

Insurance companies routinely deny claims, even small ones. It saves them money, and they know it would be too much of a hassle for most people to make them pay up. I'd love to see more politicians stand up to health insurance companies. Honestly, if they can't thrive as an industry without cheating, then perhaps the state should take over.


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13 Jan 2017, 10:56 am

Why do American leftist think Europe is Shangri-la? It's like they don't read the news, it's not a paradise by any stretch of the imagination nor are they any morally superior than anyone else. Is it a grass is always greener thing, are there a lot of Europeans that want to be more like Americans?



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13 Jan 2017, 11:45 am

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Why do American leftists think Europe is Shangri-la? It's like they don't read the news, it's not a paradise by any stretch of the imagination nor are they any morally superior than anyone else. Is it a grass is always greener thing, are there a lot of Europeans that want to be more like Americans?

Oikophobia on the rise after Trump win: Irrational fear of fellow countrymen is spreading among America’s ruling class

How crazy has the reaction to Trump’s impending presidency gotten? So crazy that Democratic operatives are scared of plumbers, and I don’t mean the Watergate kind.

No, really. Ned Resnikoff, a “senior editor” at the liberal website ThinkProgress, wrote on Facebook that he’d called a plumber to fix a clogged drain. The plumber showed up, did the job and left, but Resnikoff was left shaken, though with a functioning drain. Wrote Resnikoff, “He was a perfectly nice guy and a consummate professional. But he was also a middle-aged white man with a Southern accent who seemed unperturbed by this week’s news.”

This created fear: “While I had him in the apartment, I couldn’t stop thinking about whether he had voted for Trump, whether he knew my last name is Jewish, and how that knowledge might change the interaction we were having inside my own home.”

When it was all over, Resnikoff reported that he was “rattled” at the thought that a Trump supporter might have been in his home. “I couldn’t shake the sense of potential danger.”


http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2 ... /96413412/


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13 Jan 2017, 12:24 pm

^
:lol: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

You just can't make up something like that.


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13 Jan 2017, 5:05 pm

That is funny.Why did he think a Southern accent meant a Trump vote?
The only thing to fear from a plumber is the bill and the potential to see the dreaded "plumber butt."


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13 Jan 2017, 5:22 pm

The next 4-8 years will be loads of fun.
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13 Jan 2017, 6:58 pm

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The next 4-8 years will be loads of fun.
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It will be interesting.


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13 Jan 2017, 10:08 pm

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That is funny.Why did he think a Southern accent meant a Trump vote?
The only thing to fear from a plumber is the bill and the potential to see the dreaded "plumber butt."

poor unloved plumber crack :(



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13 Jan 2017, 10:10 pm

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Why do American leftist think Europe is Shangri-la? It's like they don't read the news, it's not a paradise by any stretch of the imagination nor are they any morally superior than anyone else. Is it a grass is always greener thing, are there a lot of Europeans that want to be more like Americans?

aside from truly universal health care, much more affordable education, a more equitable tax system, MUCH more social mobility, a more equitable society overall. I call it a paradise.



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14 Jan 2017, 2:42 am

Democrats are such a friendly, bipartisan bunch.

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14 Jan 2017, 8:12 pm

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...Resnikoff reported that he was “rattled” at the thought that a Trump supporter might have been in his home. “I couldn’t shake the sense of potential danger.

That's SOOOO incredibly STUPID, for him to say that!! It's the Trump NON-supporters who are acting "dangerous", right now!!






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14 Jan 2017, 8:30 pm

...Well , I'll even opin that some Jewish persons ~ which I assume he is (not just the name) admit to a , handed down from their parents/grandparents/whatever , feeling uneasy around parts of America that are seen as potentially/tending toward , anyway , anti-Semitism . (Especially who are descendant from those who escaped from , or narrowly came close to having to escape from , Hitler's Shoah ~ or other organized anti-Jewish movements , I suppose .)
That doesn't mean , obviously , that every such person is anti-Jewish , of that a person literally thinks that , but such feelings do exist ~ as noted by this non-Jew , one generation removed from being considered Southern , person ! :lol:
He is admitting to his non-logical feelings - Might some Trump supporters have non-logical feelings ? Would they try to get an article out of it ?
If so , could they sell it ? :lol:



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That is funny.Why did he think a Southern accent meant a Trump vote?
The only thing to fear from a plumber is the bill and the potential to see the dreaded "plumber butt."


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14 Jan 2017, 8:32 pm

...I can't reach the piece , only a USA Today subscription ad .



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From law professor Glenn Reynolds at USA Today:
"What Fuels Trump Derangement Syndrome? Gentry Liberals’ Status Anxiety."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2 ... /96155458/


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