02 Mar 2017, 11:10 pm
Strawman
Ad hominem
Tu quoque
You're hiding behind a system you really don't seem to grasp very well, instead of actually listening to what's being said. That along with a pattern of continually pointing out to everyone how skilled you think you are and what you perceive as their fallacies. I can certainly understand if you have developed tactics like these in trying to stay ahead of NT's, but you don't really need them as much or at all here. This is a place where you can actually fit in if you let yourself.
Im hoping at some point you will show me how I am using informal logical fallicies incorrectly
That would just lead to a protracted unproductive argument.
Alright. Well I hope you find peace somewhere down the line. I understand that it hasn't been easy for you.
Your concern is touching
Maybe you can share some of your experience inpeace with me.
I also really appreciate you sharing your vast knowledge concerning logic and logical fallacies.
Which ones have I used in my repy?
02 Mar 2017, 11:19 pm
From the consistency of some of the comments attacking me, I suspect some level of organization among them. Certainly, it's a concerted, deliberate attempt to silence voices who expose their tactics.
If you quit, the terrorists win.
Im pretty sure half of them are what they refer to as "sock puppets", a different login, same person.
Ezra, Jacoby, adifferentname and Raptor all seem real. I wouldnt count on the rest.
Even so, they do all seem to jump on the bandwagon.
Haha if there's any two in PPR who seem similar in personality it's you and jrjones.
Nice!
Tu quoque - when critized you turn critizim back the other person to avoid addressing the concern.
03 Mar 2017, 3:54 am
03 Mar 2017, 5:17 am
03 Mar 2017, 6:16 am
(Disclaimer: I am a Hispanic non-fundamentalist Christian American. Also, please forgive the following verbosity, Aspies and all that...)
While I personally strongly dislike blanket statements about religions, I have to defend the OP's statement in this case. While religious intolerance is unfortunately widely practiced by many individuals in modern society, the criminalization of religious differences is almost exclusive to Muslim countries at the moment.
One interesting look at this is a 2014 Pew Research article (listed below) that specifically identified countries where apostasy (changing/leaving a specific faith) and/or blasphemy (speaking offensively or against a specific faith) were then criminalized. A quick comparison of their results with the countries with greatest percentages of individuals of the Muslim faith yields a stark pattern of agreement.
What's also intriguing though, is that the pattern appears to be even more closely related to the total number of Muslim individuals within a country (here admittedly relying on Wikipedia's statistics, please don't judge me 
, link below) rather than simply percentage.
That said, there are, of course, counter examples such as Ireland's modern history of Christian terrorism and France's decidedly anti-Muslim "Loi interdisant la dissimulation du visage dans l'espace public" law and other regional laws banning other Muslim associated clothing articles.
However, the facts that these examples, and that even the US "president"'s banning of travelers from Muslim countries for "security" reasons (for the sake of argument, let's just go with that...) is enough to invite international protests and public condemnation, while hardly conclusive, seem to indicate that religious discrimination of Muslims is not as tolerated in the Christian West. In addition, there's the fact that the Latin/Roman Catholic Pope, the ostensive worldly leader of more that 50% of the world's Christians, has denounced discrimination against Muslims, especially of Muslim immigrants.
In any case, from a current legal standpoint, the OP does appear to be at least technically correct. While it's tempting to recall a history where Christians widely persecuted those of different faiths, times have definitely changed and to pretend that the past is the present is to ignore the amazing growth in consciousness and conscience that much of the world has experienced.
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"Which countries still outlaw apostasy and blasphemy?", Pew Research (2014) : pewresearch . org/fact-tank/2016/07/29/which-countries-still-outlaw-apostasy-and-blasphemy/
"Muslim World", Wikipedia (2017) : en.wikipedia . org/wiki/Muslim_world
(Sorry, I don't post a lot, so I'm not allowed to post whole links 
)
03 Mar 2017, 9:04 am
03 Mar 2017, 9:05 am
03 Mar 2017, 9:10 am
While I personally strongly dislike blanket statements about religions, I have to defend the OP's statement in this case. While religious intolerance is unfortunately widely practiced by many individuals in modern society, the criminalization of religious differences is almost exclusive to Muslim countries at the moment.
One interesting look at this is a 2014 Pew Research article (listed below) that specifically identified countries where apostasy (changing/leaving a specific faith) and/or blasphemy (speaking offensively or against a specific faith) were then criminalized. A quick comparison of their results with the countries with greatest percentages of individuals of the Muslim faith yields a stark pattern of agreement.
What's also intriguing though, is that the pattern appears to be even more closely related to the total number of Muslim individuals within a country (here admittedly relying on Wikipedia's statistics, please don't judge me
, link below) rather than simply percentage.That said, there are, of course, counter examples such as Ireland's modern history of Christian terrorism and France's decidedly anti-Muslim "Loi interdisant la dissimulation du visage dans l'espace public" law and other regional laws banning other Muslim associated clothing articles.
However, the facts that these examples, and that even the US "president"'s banning of travelers from Muslim countries for "security" reasons (for the sake of argument, let's just go with that...) is enough to invite international protests and public condemnation, while hardly conclusive, seem to indicate that religious discrimination of Muslims is not as tolerated in the Christian West. In addition, there's the fact that the Latin/Roman Catholic Pope, the ostensive worldly leader of more that 50% of the world's Christians, has denounced discrimination against Muslims, especially of Muslim immigrants.
In any case, from a current legal standpoint, the OP does appear to be at least technically correct. While it's tempting to recall a history where Christians widely persecuted those of different faiths, times have definitely changed and to pretend that the past is the present is to ignore the amazing growth in consciousness and conscience that much of the world has experienced.
______________
"Which countries still outlaw apostasy and blasphemy?", Pew Research (2014) : pewresearch . org/fact-tank/2016/07/29/which-countries-still-outlaw-apostasy-and-blasphemy/
"Muslim World", Wikipedia (2017) : en.wikipedia . org/wiki/Muslim_world
(Sorry, I don't post a lot, so I'm not allowed to post whole links
)There is a massive difference between culture and religion of course the culture from another culture may not be tolerant. Its those cultures who are intolerant not the religion itself. American and british Muslims have a completely different culture.
Also if you want to talk about different Christianity focused cultures I would suggest looking towards Africa and your own texas where people are killed or shunned being homosexual. Or even the Westbaro baptist church (or however you spell it). Sure it's not all Christians but it is a certain Christian culture, it's the same for Muslims, same for Jewish etc
03 Mar 2017, 9:33 am
03 Mar 2017, 9:40 am
03 Mar 2017, 9:44 am
03 Mar 2017, 9:49 am
03 Mar 2017, 9:51 am
03 Mar 2017, 9:53 am
While I personally strongly dislike blanket statements about religions, I have to defend the OP's statement in this case. While religious intolerance is unfortunately widely practiced by many individuals in modern society, the criminalization of religious differences is almost exclusive to Muslim countries at the moment.
One interesting look at this is a 2014 Pew Research article (listed below) that specifically identified countries where apostasy (changing/leaving a specific faith) and/or blasphemy (speaking offensively or against a specific faith) were then criminalized. A quick comparison of their results with the countries with greatest percentages of individuals of the Muslim faith yields a stark pattern of agreement.
What's also intriguing though, is that the pattern appears to be even more closely related to the total number of Muslim individuals within a country (here admittedly relying on Wikipedia's statistics, please don't judge me
, link below) rather than simply percentage.That said, there are, of course, counter examples such as Ireland's modern history of Christian terrorism and France's decidedly anti-Muslim "Loi interdisant la dissimulation du visage dans l'espace public" law and other regional laws banning other Muslim associated clothing articles.
However, the facts that these examples, and that even the US "president"'s banning of travelers from Muslim countries for "security" reasons (for the sake of argument, let's just go with that...) is enough to invite international protests and public condemnation, while hardly conclusive, seem to indicate that religious discrimination of Muslims is not as tolerated in the Christian West. In addition, there's the fact that the Latin/Roman Catholic Pope, the ostensive worldly leader of more that 50% of the world's Christians, has denounced discrimination against Muslims, especially of Muslim immigrants.
In any case, from a current legal standpoint, the OP does appear to be at least technically correct. While it's tempting to recall a history where Christians widely persecuted those of different faiths, times have definitely changed and to pretend that the past is the present is to ignore the amazing growth in consciousness and conscience that much of the world has experienced.
______________
"Which countries still outlaw apostasy and blasphemy?", Pew Research (2014) : pewresearch . org/fact-tank/2016/07/29/which-countries-still-outlaw-apostasy-and-blasphemy/
"Muslim World", Wikipedia (2017) : en.wikipedia . org/wiki/Muslim_world
(Sorry, I don't post a lot, so I'm not allowed to post whole links
)My kingdom for such eloquence and temperment.
Regards
DL
03 Mar 2017, 9:59 am
03 Mar 2017, 10:03 am
