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26 Oct 2017, 12:03 am

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There has been a flood of information coming out in the last three or four days -- I haven't been able to absorb it all, but it's apparently big. The Hillary-Russia-uranium deal is breaking open. Bill was paid $500,000 for one speech shortly before Hillary's State Department sold American uranium to Russia through a Russian corporation that was bribing assorted people. (The story is complex and I haven't got all the details down.)

And the Trump-Russia thing is also cracking open, as it is emerging that the Democratic National Committee paid for the bogus Russian dossier on Trump and didn't report the payments as campaign expenses (a crime), and then publicly lied about the payments. The bogus DNC files were then used as a pretext by Obama's FBI to spy on Trump's campaign. Those are the outlines. And an FBI informant has now been cleared to testify before Congress (if he doesn't mysteriously turn up dead first).

FBI informant in Obama-era Russian nuclear bribery cleared to testify before Congress

The Justice Department on Wednesday night released a former FBI informant from a confidentiality agreement, allowing him to testify before Congress about what he witnessed undercover about the Russian nuclear industry’s efforts to win favorable decisions during the Obama administration.

Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores confirmed to The Hill a deal had been reached clearing the informant to talk to Congress for the first time, nearly eight years after he first went undercover for the FBI.

“As of tonight, the Department of Justice has authorized the informant to disclose to the Chairmen and Ranking Members of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, as well as one member of each of their staffs, any information or documents he has concerning alleged corruption or bribery involving transactions in the uranium market, including but not limited to anything related to Vadim Mikerin, Rosatom, Tenex, Uranium One, or the Clinton Foundation,” she said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3572 ... ify-before


The difference is, the Democrats aren't running around in hysteria in a display of consciousness of guilt - very different from Trump and company.


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26 Oct 2017, 8:07 am

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Darmok wrote:
There has been a flood of information coming out in the last three or four days -- I haven't been able to absorb it all, but it's apparently big. The Hillary-Russia-uranium deal is breaking open. Bill was paid $500,000 for one speech shortly before Hillary's State Department sold American uranium to Russia through a Russian corporation that was bribing assorted people. (The story is complex and I haven't got all the details down.)

And the Trump-Russia thing is also cracking open, as it is emerging that the Democratic National Committee paid for the bogus Russian dossier on Trump and didn't report the payments as campaign expenses (a crime), and then publicly lied about the payments. The bogus DNC files were then used as a pretext by Obama's FBI to spy on Trump's campaign. Those are the outlines. And an FBI informant has now been cleared to testify before Congress (if he doesn't mysteriously turn up dead first).

FBI informant in Obama-era Russian nuclear bribery cleared to testify before Congress

The Justice Department on Wednesday night released a former FBI informant from a confidentiality agreement, allowing him to testify before Congress about what he witnessed undercover about the Russian nuclear industry’s efforts to win favorable decisions during the Obama administration.

Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores confirmed to The Hill a deal had been reached clearing the informant to talk to Congress for the first time, nearly eight years after he first went undercover for the FBI.

“As of tonight, the Department of Justice has authorized the informant to disclose to the Chairmen and Ranking Members of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, as well as one member of each of their staffs, any information or documents he has concerning alleged corruption or bribery involving transactions in the uranium market, including but not limited to anything related to Vadim Mikerin, Rosatom, Tenex, Uranium One, or the Clinton Foundation,” she said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3572 ... ify-before


The difference is, the Democrats aren't running around in hysteria in a display of consciousness of guilt - very different from Trump and company.


Perhaps the difference in reations has to with Trump and co being falsely accused and the Democrats knowing their goose is cooked.



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26 Oct 2017, 8:52 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Darmok wrote:
There has been a flood of information coming out in the last three or four days -- I haven't been able to absorb it all, but it's apparently big. The Hillary-Russia-uranium deal is breaking open. Bill was paid $500,000 for one speech shortly before Hillary's State Department sold American uranium to Russia through a Russian corporation that was bribing assorted people. (The story is complex and I haven't got all the details down.)

And the Trump-Russia thing is also cracking open, as it is emerging that the Democratic National Committee paid for the bogus Russian dossier on Trump and didn't report the payments as campaign expenses (a crime), and then publicly lied about the payments. The bogus DNC files were then used as a pretext by Obama's FBI to spy on Trump's campaign. Those are the outlines. And an FBI informant has now been cleared to testify before Congress (if he doesn't mysteriously turn up dead first).

FBI informant in Obama-era Russian nuclear bribery cleared to testify before Congress

The Justice Department on Wednesday night released a former FBI informant from a confidentiality agreement, allowing him to testify before Congress about what he witnessed undercover about the Russian nuclear industry’s efforts to win favorable decisions during the Obama administration.

Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores confirmed to The Hill a deal had been reached clearing the informant to talk to Congress for the first time, nearly eight years after he first went undercover for the FBI.

“As of tonight, the Department of Justice has authorized the informant to disclose to the Chairmen and Ranking Members of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, as well as one member of each of their staffs, any information or documents he has concerning alleged corruption or bribery involving transactions in the uranium market, including but not limited to anything related to Vadim Mikerin, Rosatom, Tenex, Uranium One, or the Clinton Foundation,” she said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3572 ... ify-before


The difference is, the Democrats aren't running around in hysteria in a display of consciousness of guilt - very different from Trump and company.


Perhaps the difference in reations has to with Trump and co being falsely accused and the Democrats knowing their goose is cooked.

You always say, each time there is a Trump story, that it is hysteria and that there is a a lack of evidences; what's the difference those story on Obama and Hillary have with the Trump stories? Or do you consider, from your own bias, that only the Trump scandals lack evidences?


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26 Oct 2017, 12:56 pm

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Darmok wrote:
There has been a flood of information coming out in the last three or four days -- I haven't been able to absorb it all, but it's apparently big. The Hillary-Russia-uranium deal is breaking open. Bill was paid $500,000 for one speech shortly before Hillary's State Department sold American uranium to Russia through a Russian corporation that was bribing assorted people. (The story is complex and I haven't got all the details down.)

And the Trump-Russia thing is also cracking open, as it is emerging that the Democratic National Committee paid for the bogus Russian dossier on Trump and didn't report the payments as campaign expenses (a crime), and then publicly lied about the payments. The bogus DNC files were then used as a pretext by Obama's FBI to spy on Trump's campaign. Those are the outlines. And an FBI informant has now been cleared to testify before Congress (if he doesn't mysteriously turn up dead first).

FBI informant in Obama-era Russian nuclear bribery cleared to testify before Congress

The Justice Department on Wednesday night released a former FBI informant from a confidentiality agreement, allowing him to testify before Congress about what he witnessed undercover about the Russian nuclear industry’s efforts to win favorable decisions during the Obama administration.

Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores confirmed to The Hill a deal had been reached clearing the informant to talk to Congress for the first time, nearly eight years after he first went undercover for the FBI.

“As of tonight, the Department of Justice has authorized the informant to disclose to the Chairmen and Ranking Members of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, as well as one member of each of their staffs, any information or documents he has concerning alleged corruption or bribery involving transactions in the uranium market, including but not limited to anything related to Vadim Mikerin, Rosatom, Tenex, Uranium One, or the Clinton Foundation,” she said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3572 ... ify-before


The difference is, the Democrats aren't running around in hysteria in a display of consciousness of guilt - very different from Trump and company.


Perhaps the difference in reations has to with Trump and co being falsely accused and the Democrats knowing their goose is cooked.


What Tollorin said.


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26 Oct 2017, 3:04 pm

Tollorin wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Darmok wrote:
There has been a flood of information coming out in the last three or four days -- I haven't been able to absorb it all, but it's apparently big. The Hillary-Russia-uranium deal is breaking open. Bill was paid $500,000 for one speech shortly before Hillary's State Department sold American uranium to Russia through a Russian corporation that was bribing assorted people. (The story is complex and I haven't got all the details down.)

And the Trump-Russia thing is also cracking open, as it is emerging that the Democratic National Committee paid for the bogus Russian dossier on Trump and didn't report the payments as campaign expenses (a crime), and then publicly lied about the payments. The bogus DNC files were then used as a pretext by Obama's FBI to spy on Trump's campaign. Those are the outlines. And an FBI informant has now been cleared to testify before Congress (if he doesn't mysteriously turn up dead first).

FBI informant in Obama-era Russian nuclear bribery cleared to testify before Congress

The Justice Department on Wednesday night released a former FBI informant from a confidentiality agreement, allowing him to testify before Congress about what he witnessed undercover about the Russian nuclear industry’s efforts to win favorable decisions during the Obama administration.

Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores confirmed to The Hill a deal had been reached clearing the informant to talk to Congress for the first time, nearly eight years after he first went undercover for the FBI.

“As of tonight, the Department of Justice has authorized the informant to disclose to the Chairmen and Ranking Members of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, as well as one member of each of their staffs, any information or documents he has concerning alleged corruption or bribery involving transactions in the uranium market, including but not limited to anything related to Vadim Mikerin, Rosatom, Tenex, Uranium One, or the Clinton Foundation,” she said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3572 ... ify-before


The difference is, the Democrats aren't running around in hysteria in a display of consciousness of guilt - very different from Trump and company.


Perhaps the difference in reactions has to with Trump and co being falsely accused and the Democrats knowing their goose is cooked.


You always say, each time there is a Trump story, that it is hysteria and that there is a a lack of evidences; what's the difference those story on Obama and Hillary have with the Trump stories? Or do you consider, from your own bias, that only the Trump scandals lack evidences?


Where did I say this story/claim contains evidence? I said perhaps the Democrats know their goose is cooked, not that it is.

The way I'm viewing it is, when someone is falsely accused of doing something bad they object and look for a defense etc. When they are caught doing something bad they're silent. It's just a theory.



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27 Oct 2017, 2:50 am

Putin knows what he has got on Trump, and unlike Trump, he can play a long long game. He'll release it when it suits his agenda.



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Putin knows what he has got on Trump, and unlike Trump, he can play a long long game. He'll release it when it suits his agenda.


Release what? Or was that just a hypothesis?



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17 Mar 2018, 11:07 am

The Reckoning of the FBI Has Begun

Friday's firing of FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, based on a report from the Office of Professional Responsibility, is only the beginning of what is likely to be the most explosive series of revelations in American history.

Forget Watergate. It will be the distant past once the Inspector General's reports—there apparently will be more than one—start to come out. This will be the "Gate of Gates."

From the FBI and across the intelligence agencies an astonishing number of people are going to find themselves accused, one can safely predict at this point, of some atrocious behavior in a free republic. And it will not just be the small change of Peter Strzok (the dimwitted director of counter-intelligence) and his gal pal Lisa Page. It will include—on one level or another—James Comey, Loretta Lynch, John Brennan, James Clapper, Susan Rice and, almost inevitably, Barack Obama, not to mention others known and unknown.

All these people's reputations will be damaged forever for the pathetic purpose of getting Hillary Clinton elected president and later for their determination to manipulate the FBI and intelligence agencies to wound as severely as possible Trump's presidency. That they didn't stop to think that they might be wounding America at the same time is extraordinarily selfish and nauseating.

https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/reckoning-fbi-begun/


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17 Mar 2018, 1:56 pm

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The Reckoning of the FBI Has Begun

Friday's firing of FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, based on a report from the Office of Professional Responsibility, is only the beginning of what is likely to be the most explosive series of revelations in American history.

Forget Watergate. It will be the distant past once the Inspector General's reports—there apparently will be more than one—start to come out. This will be the "Gate of Gates."

From the FBI and across the intelligence agencies an astonishing number of people are going to find themselves accused, one can safely predict at this point, of some atrocious behavior in a free republic. And it will not just be the small change of Peter Strzok (the dimwitted director of counter-intelligence) and his gal pal Lisa Page. It will include—on one level or another—James Comey, Loretta Lynch, John Brennan, James Clapper, Susan Rice and, almost inevitably, Barack Obama, not to mention others known and unknown.

All these people's reputations will be damaged forever for the pathetic purpose of getting Hillary Clinton elected president and later for their determination to manipulate the FBI and intelligence agencies to wound as severely as possible Trump's presidency. That they didn't stop to think that they might be wounding America at the same time is extraordinarily selfish and nauseating.

https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/reckoning-fbi-begun/


Uh huh. Tell when that starts to happen, so I don't miss it and stuff. :roll:
The only person guilty of wounding America for selfish reasons is Trump.


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17 May 2018, 2:14 pm

The dam is beginning to crack.

BREAKING: IG Horowitz has found "reasonable grounds" for believing there has been a violation of federal criminal law in the FBI/DOJ's handling of the Clinton investigation/s and has referred his findings of potential criminal misconduct to Huber for possible criminal prosecution.

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/ ... 4499671040

The criminal conspiracy inside the FBI and DOJ (with ex-CIA director Brennan as a central figure) makes Watergate pale in comparison.


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17 May 2018, 4:25 pm

For all the talk about so called Obamagate, in the end it's just a vindictive wet dream of Republicans who know their orange god-emperor is taking a fall, and will take his whole corrupt machine with him.


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18 May 2018, 12:45 am

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For all the talk about so called Obamagate, in the end it's just a vindictive wet dream of Republicans who know their orange god-emperor is taking a fall, and will take his whole corrupt machine with him.

It is possible Trump, the Clintons and Obama are corrupt. It is a vindictive wet dream because while Trump will talk himself into trouble the 3 dems are masters at avoiding trouble and besides hardcore Republicans most people consider the Clinton’s and Obama yesterdays news and who wants to be remembered in history as the “racist” who prosecuted the nations first black president and a man more popular now in large part due to comparisons to the current one.


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For all the talk about so called Obamagate, in the end it's just a vindictive wet dream of Republicans who know their orange god-emperor is taking a fall, and will take his whole corrupt machine with him.

It is possible Trump, the Clintons and Obama are corrupt. It is a vindictive wet dream because while Trump will talk himself into trouble the 3 dems are masters at avoiding trouble and besides hardcore Republicans most people consider the Clinton’s and Obama yesterdays news and who wants to be remembered in history as the “racist” who prosecuted the nations first black president and a man more popular now in large part due to comparisons to the current one.


I've come to recognize how the Clintons had walked away from the idealism of their youth a long time ago, but I have yet to believe that Obama wasn't a class act, nor have I seen any legitimate evidence to suggest that he wasn't.


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18 May 2018, 6:41 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
For all the talk about so called Obamagate, in the end it's just a vindictive wet dream of Republicans who know their orange god-emperor is taking a fall, and will take his whole corrupt machine with him.

It is possible Trump, the Clintons and Obama are corrupt. It is a vindictive wet dream because while Trump will talk himself into trouble the 3 dems are masters at avoiding trouble and besides hardcore Republicans most people consider the Clinton’s and Obama yesterdays news and who wants to be remembered in history as the “racist” who prosecuted the nations first black president and a man more popular now in large part due to comparisons to the current one.


I've come to recognize how the Clintons had walked away from the idealism of their youth a long time ago, but I have yet to believe that Obama wasn't a class act, nor have I seen any legitimate evidence to suggest that he wasn't.


Bombing 9 countries. Bombing Pakistan after 3 days in office. Supporting ISIS/Al Qaeda in Libya and Syria and destroying those countries, creating millions of refugees. Killing innocent US citizens with a drone. Supporting Neo Nazis in Ukraine was all so "classy".

Him being non white and a Democrat is good enough for some. Regardless of the destruction the spineless pathetic parasite caused. Disgusting


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18 May 2018, 8:38 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
For all the talk about so called Obamagate, in the end it's just a vindictive wet dream of Republicans who know their orange god-emperor is taking a fall, and will take his whole corrupt machine with him.

It is possible Trump, the Clintons and Obama are corrupt. It is a vindictive wet dream because while Trump will talk himself into trouble the 3 dems are masters at avoiding trouble and besides hardcore Republicans most people consider the Clinton’s and Obama yesterdays news and who wants to be remembered in history as the “racist” who prosecuted the nations first black president and a man more popular now in large part due to comparisons to the current one.


I've come to recognize how the Clintons had walked away from the idealism of their youth a long time ago, but I have yet to believe that Obama wasn't a class act, nor have I seen any legitimate evidence to suggest that he wasn't.


Bombing 9 countries. Bombing Pakistan after 3 days in office. Supporting ISIS/Al Qaeda in Libya and Syria and destroying those countries, creating millions of refugees. Killing innocent US citizens with a drone. Supporting Neo Nazis in Ukraine was all so "classy".

Him being non white and a Democrat is good enough for some. Regardless of the destruction the spineless pathetic parasite caused. Disgusting


I'm talking about malfeasance in office.


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JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
For all the talk about so called Obamagate, in the end it's just a vindictive wet dream of Republicans who know their orange god-emperor is taking a fall, and will take his whole corrupt machine with him.

It is possible Trump, the Clintons and Obama are corrupt. It is a vindictive wet dream because while Trump will talk himself into trouble the 3 dems are masters at avoiding trouble and besides hardcore Republicans most people consider the Clinton’s and Obama yesterdays news and who wants to be remembered in history as the “racist” who prosecuted the nations first black president and a man more popular now in large part due to comparisons to the current one.


I've come to recognize how the Clintons had walked away from the idealism of their youth a long time ago, but I have yet to believe that Obama wasn't a class act, nor have I seen any legitimate evidence to suggest that he wasn't.


Bombing 9 countries. Bombing Pakistan after 3 days in office. Supporting ISIS/Al Qaeda in Libya and Syria and destroying those countries, creating millions of refugees. Killing innocent US citizens with a drone. Supporting Neo Nazis in Ukraine was all so "classy".

Him being non white and a Democrat is good enough for some. Regardless of the destruction the spineless pathetic parasite caused. Disgusting


Perhaps being very "statesman like" and eloquent in speech is all Americans require of their president. I'm amazed at how many Democrats still talk about Obama in nauseatingly glowing terms, given the reality that his policies were pretty much the same as the preceding administration's -- or even worse!

The only difference between Trump and his predecessors is that he has striped away the respectable façade from the presidency. The deep state goes merrily on!


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