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25 Apr 2018, 6:05 pm

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Cnn lies all the time so your being misinformed.


About what?


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25 Apr 2018, 8:59 pm

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The media loved Reagan,whatever he said,they thought was golden,even if it was piss.
https://www.thenation.com/article/reaga ... ove-story/

Well...yeah...after he DIED!

I don’t remember them bashing him when he was alive.

The media DESPISED Reagan. Reagan had people close to him who were expert in handling the media. Reagan had a massive PR campaign that cultivated this super nice image that endeared him to voters. He was wildly popular. The media hated him, but they had NO IDEA what to do with him because any misstep would cost them dearly in the ratings.

No pres is perfect. I remember soon after Uh-bama was elected and he’d be making speeches or press conferences. He, uh, wanted to, uh, pass healthcare, uh, and, uh, help the uuuuhmerican people. So...uh...yeah...that we want to, uh, do.

Well, Reagan had his share of gaffes, too. And his team figured out the media focused on the gaffes instead of the message. He moved his pc’s to prime time when most people would likely hear him for themselves, which totally killed what the media were trying to do.

They did everything they possibly could and Reagan’s PR team somehow always stayed on top of them. The media were all practically having orgasms over Reagan education policies. And let’s not forget the Contras.

Ultimately they failed. But make no mistake, they had no love for Reagan. They wanted desperately for Reagan to fail and stood by waiting for the exact moment that it happened.

Reagan dropped the ball on spending towards the end of his term. And even he admitted that. Nobody is perfect. I don’t believe the left has any bigger embarrassment than Carter (oil crisis, Iran hostage crisis). The best anyone could have gotten as a conservative was Goldwater, who perhaps was entirely way too ahead of his time. Reagan is a close second, and as president is an ideal model for conservative leadership.

I don’t buy into he Trump personality cult. I just want to know the policies and how they will ultimately benefit me. Trump is NOT a Goldwater conservative like Reagan. Trump is an outsider who defeated the candidate that the media picked for president. There’s a lot of resentment there, I think, and Trump will never have the right conditions to reproduce what Reagan did. But Trump has succeeded in one thing: he lives rent-free in their heads. Every time he p¡$$es off someone in the media they immediately get the word out and suddenly the public is aware of what he’s doing. Trump has no faith in the media to actually DO their job, so he turns to Twitter to get the word out directly. Whereas Reagan was tightly protected by his media machine, Trump is readily accessible 24/7.



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25 Apr 2018, 9:00 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Cnn lies all the time so your being misinformed.


About what?

Whadya got?



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25 Apr 2018, 9:03 pm

AngelRho wrote:
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Cnn lies all the time so your being misinformed.


About what?

Whadya got?


I'm asking for examples.


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26 Apr 2018, 12:38 am

ample examples

Compilation of CNN & MSNBC Cutting Guests Mics

Top 20 CNN News Fails

Biggest CNN Fails of 2017



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26 Apr 2018, 1:18 am

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ample examples

Compilation of CNN & MSNBC Cutting Guests Mics

Top 20 CNN News Fails

Biggest CNN Fails of 2017


Are... there supposed to be Youtube videos there?


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26 Apr 2018, 6:45 am

@traven: bless his heart, doesn’t see the fnords. ;-)



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26 Apr 2018, 12:35 pm

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ample examples

Compilation of CNN & MSNBC Cutting Guests Mics

Top 20 CNN News Fails

Biggest CNN Fails of 2017


Are... there supposed to be Youtube videos there?


Okay, they're there, now. Certainly couldn't see them yesterday. But that admittedly may have been more due to WP being buggy.


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26 Apr 2018, 12:52 pm

Sure, CNN and MSNBC have made errors of judgement, and just out-and-out stupid choices. But Fox, Breitbart, and other right wing outlets have out-and-out lied without ever correcting said lies.
Hannity ranted and raved about how a Democratic operative who had been killed in a failed mugging had actually been "silenced" by Hillary Clinton. When that story had been proven to be blatantly false, Hannity never apologized for the lie.
Did you know Breitbart has a wholly black crime section?
When Glenn Beck still worked for Fox, he had thrown guests off his show.
Fox talks down to their audience, holding in contempt their viewer's level of intelligence. One of the blondes, while criticizing Clinton's use of the word Czar in administration positions, had said: "I looked up the word Czar, and IT MEANS KING!"
That's hardly the tip of the iceberg.


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26 Apr 2018, 1:38 pm

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Sure, CNN and MSNBC have made errors of judgement, and just out-and-out stupid choices. But Fox, Breitbart, and other right wing outlets have out-and-out lied without ever correcting said lies.
Hannity ranted and raved about how a Democratic operative who had been killed in a failed mugging had actually been "silenced" by Hillary Clinton. When that story had been proven to be blatantly false, Hannity never apologized for the lie.
Did you know Breitbart has a wholly black crime section?
When Glenn Beck still worked for Fox, he had thrown guests off his show.
Fox talks down to their audience, holding in contempt their viewer's level of intelligence. One of the blondes, while criticizing Clinton's use of the word Czar in administration positions, had said: "I looked up the word Czar, and IT MEANS KING!"
That's hardly the tip of the iceberg.

“One of the blondes...”

It never ceases to amuse me to find sexism hiding in the deep, dark corners of the leftist consciousness. “One of the blondes...” indeed! That’s another symptom of the inherent resentment that frequently builds within leftist thought. Women actually succeed in the media and there are STILL men lining up to objectify and put them “in their place.”

To be fair, it’s not just men on the left with this problem. It’s a problem of feminism, too. Feminism thrives on the demise, not success, of women. If women are successful, there’s no patriarchy, no “war on women” to borrow that term. A woman in power or who succeeds on her own merits MUST be doing something wrong to betray the movement. Feminism has largely faded into irrelevance, and in time many of the ideas of the left will similarly pass away.

“One of the blondes...” :roll:



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26 Apr 2018, 4:32 pm

AngelRho wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Sure, CNN and MSNBC have made errors of judgement, and just out-and-out stupid choices. But Fox, Breitbart, and other right wing outlets have out-and-out lied without ever correcting said lies.
Hannity ranted and raved about how a Democratic operative who had been killed in a failed mugging had actually been "silenced" by Hillary Clinton. When that story had been proven to be blatantly false, Hannity never apologized for the lie.
Did you know Breitbart has a wholly black crime section?
When Glenn Beck still worked for Fox, he had thrown guests off his show.
Fox talks down to their audience, holding in contempt their viewer's level of intelligence. One of the blondes, while criticizing Clinton's use of the word Czar in administration positions, had said: "I looked up the word Czar, and IT MEANS KING!"
That's hardly the tip of the iceberg.

“One of the blondes...”

It never ceases to amuse me to find sexism hiding in the deep, dark corners of the leftist consciousness. “One of the blondes...” indeed! That’s another symptom of the inherent resentment that frequently builds within leftist thought. Women actually succeed in the media and there are STILL men lining up to objectify and put them “in their place.”

To be fair, it’s not just men on the left with this problem. It’s a problem of feminism, too. Feminism thrives on the demise, not success, of women. If women are successful, there’s no patriarchy, no “war on women” to borrow that term. A woman in power or who succeeds on her own merits MUST be doing something wrong to betray the movement. Feminism has largely faded into irrelevance, and in time many of the ideas of the left will similarly pass away.

“One of the blondes...” :roll:


Uh, no. I say, "one of the blondes," because the late Roger Ailes, and his Australian master of the sulphuric underworld, Rupert Murdoch, hire mostly blonde, blue eyed women on Fox. If anything, the sexism rests with Fox and Murdoch. And before you try telling me that that's not really sexism, I remind you that every one of these women are shown frequently in full body shots, wearing extremely short dresses and skirts. Yes, that's sexism, and meant to excite old conservative men, and keep them glued to the screen.


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26 Apr 2018, 7:33 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Sure, CNN and MSNBC have made errors of judgement, and just out-and-out stupid choices. But Fox, Breitbart, and other right wing outlets have out-and-out lied without ever correcting said lies.
Hannity ranted and raved about how a Democratic operative who had been killed in a failed mugging had actually been "silenced" by Hillary Clinton. When that story had been proven to be blatantly false, Hannity never apologized for the lie.
Did you know Breitbart has a wholly black crime section?
When Glenn Beck still worked for Fox, he had thrown guests off his show.
Fox talks down to their audience, holding in contempt their viewer's level of intelligence. One of the blondes, while criticizing Clinton's use of the word Czar in administration positions, had said: "I looked up the word Czar, and IT MEANS KING!"
That's hardly the tip of the iceberg.

“One of the blondes...”

It never ceases to amuse me to find sexism hiding in the deep, dark corners of the leftist consciousness. “One of the blondes...” indeed! That’s another symptom of the inherent resentment that frequently builds within leftist thought. Women actually succeed in the media and there are STILL men lining up to objectify and put them “in their place.”

To be fair, it’s not just men on the left with this problem. It’s a problem of feminism, too. Feminism thrives on the demise, not success, of women. If women are successful, there’s no patriarchy, no “war on women” to borrow that term. A woman in power or who succeeds on her own merits MUST be doing something wrong to betray the movement. Feminism has largely faded into irrelevance, and in time many of the ideas of the left will similarly pass away.

“One of the blondes...” :roll:


Uh, no. I say, "one of the blondes," because the late Roger Ailes, and his Australian master of the sulphuric underworld, Rupert Murdoch, hire mostly blonde, blue eyed women on Fox. If anything, the sexism rests with Fox and Murdoch. And before you try telling me that that's not really sexism, I remind you that every one of these women are shown frequently in full body shots, wearing extremely short dresses and skirts. Yes, that's sexism, and meant to excite old conservative men, and keep them glued to the screen.

Are you serious? Maybe that’a what YOU choose to see. All I see are SUCCESSFUL women who have worked hard to get where they are. What they wear is no concern of mine.

Catch up with the rest of us in the 21st century. Women can wear what they like.



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26 Apr 2018, 7:56 pm

AngelRho wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Sure, CNN and MSNBC have made errors of judgement, and just out-and-out stupid choices. But Fox, Breitbart, and other right wing outlets have out-and-out lied without ever correcting said lies.
Hannity ranted and raved about how a Democratic operative who had been killed in a failed mugging had actually been "silenced" by Hillary Clinton. When that story had been proven to be blatantly false, Hannity never apologized for the lie.
Did you know Breitbart has a wholly black crime section?
When Glenn Beck still worked for Fox, he had thrown guests off his show.
Fox talks down to their audience, holding in contempt their viewer's level of intelligence. One of the blondes, while criticizing Clinton's use of the word Czar in administration positions, had said: "I looked up the word Czar, and IT MEANS KING!"
That's hardly the tip of the iceberg.

“One of the blondes...”

It never ceases to amuse me to find sexism hiding in the deep, dark corners of the leftist consciousness. “One of the blondes...” indeed! That’s another symptom of the inherent resentment that frequently builds within leftist thought. Women actually succeed in the media and there are STILL men lining up to objectify and put them “in their place.”

To be fair, it’s not just men on the left with this problem. It’s a problem of feminism, too. Feminism thrives on the demise, not success, of women. If women are successful, there’s no patriarchy, no “war on women” to borrow that term. A woman in power or who succeeds on her own merits MUST be doing something wrong to betray the movement. Feminism has largely faded into irrelevance, and in time many of the ideas of the left will similarly pass away.

“One of the blondes...” :roll:


Uh, no. I say, "one of the blondes," because the late Roger Ailes, and his Australian master of the sulphuric underworld, Rupert Murdoch, hire mostly blonde, blue eyed women on Fox. If anything, the sexism rests with Fox and Murdoch. And before you try telling me that that's not really sexism, I remind you that every one of these women are shown frequently in full body shots, wearing extremely short dresses and skirts. Yes, that's sexism, and meant to excite old conservative men, and keep them glued to the screen.

Are you serious? Maybe that’a what YOU choose to see. All I see are SUCCESSFUL women who have worked hard to get where they are. What they wear is no concern of mine.

Catch up with the rest of us in the 21st century. Women can wear what they like.



HA, HA, Ha!! ! No, no, no.

1. The Fox news women are not there for their journalistic skills, but for first their looks, and secondly their allegiance to right wing ideology.

2. They are told to dress alluringly, to keep impotent old Republican men glued to the screen. Watch CNN, and MSNBC, and you'll see accomplished, qualified women, and they'll all be dressed professionally.


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26 Apr 2018, 8:59 pm

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Feminism thrives on the demise, not success, of women. If women are successful, there’s no patriarchy, no “war on women” to borrow that term. A woman in power or who succeeds on her own merits MUST be doing something wrong to betray the movement. Feminism has largely faded into irrelevance, and in time many of the ideas of the left will similarly pass away.


Same applies to liberals and the poor and minorities. The success of the left depends on the poor staying poor and minorities staying downtrodden.


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Feminism thrives on the demise, not success, of women. If women are successful, there’s no patriarchy, no “war on women” to borrow that term. A woman in power or who succeeds on her own merits MUST be doing something wrong to betray the movement. Feminism has largely faded into irrelevance, and in time many of the ideas of the left will similarly pass away.


Same applies to liberals and the poor and minorities. The success of the left depends on the poor staying poor and minorities staying downtrodden.

Exactly.

Conservatism is very much pro-women, which I think what remains of contemporary feminism misses. It’s a message of empowerment and encouragement.

The narrative on the left is of victimization. It’s a message that appeals to anyone who is unhappy, but it never offers a way out. It’s just a bunch of people who argue and complain all the time and never get anywhere without making everyone else as miserable as they are.



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26 Apr 2018, 9:45 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Sure, CNN and MSNBC have made errors of judgement, and just out-and-out stupid choices. But Fox, Breitbart, and other right wing outlets have out-and-out lied without ever correcting said lies.
Hannity ranted and raved about how a Democratic operative who had been killed in a failed mugging had actually been "silenced" by Hillary Clinton. When that story had been proven to be blatantly false, Hannity never apologized for the lie.
Did you know Breitbart has a wholly black crime section?
When Glenn Beck still worked for Fox, he had thrown guests off his show.
Fox talks down to their audience, holding in contempt their viewer's level of intelligence. One of the blondes, while criticizing Clinton's use of the word Czar in administration positions, had said: "I looked up the word Czar, and IT MEANS KING!"
That's hardly the tip of the iceberg.

“One of the blondes...”

It never ceases to amuse me to find sexism hiding in the deep, dark corners of the leftist consciousness. “One of the blondes...” indeed! That’s another symptom of the inherent resentment that frequently builds within leftist thought. Women actually succeed in the media and there are STILL men lining up to objectify and put them “in their place.”

To be fair, it’s not just men on the left with this problem. It’s a problem of feminism, too. Feminism thrives on the demise, not success, of women. If women are successful, there’s no patriarchy, no “war on women” to borrow that term. A woman in power or who succeeds on her own merits MUST be doing something wrong to betray the movement. Feminism has largely faded into irrelevance, and in time many of the ideas of the left will similarly pass away.

“One of the blondes...” :roll:


Uh, no. I say, "one of the blondes," because the late Roger Ailes, and his Australian master of the sulphuric underworld, Rupert Murdoch, hire mostly blonde, blue eyed women on Fox. If anything, the sexism rests with Fox and Murdoch. And before you try telling me that that's not really sexism, I remind you that every one of these women are shown frequently in full body shots, wearing extremely short dresses and skirts. Yes, that's sexism, and meant to excite old conservative men, and keep them glued to the screen.

Are you serious? Maybe that’a what YOU choose to see. All I see are SUCCESSFUL women who have worked hard to get where they are. What they wear is no concern of mine.

Catch up with the rest of us in the 21st century. Women can wear what they like.



HA, HA, Ha!! ! No, no, no.

1. The Fox news women are not there for their journalistic skills, but for first their looks, and secondly their allegiance to right wing ideology.

2. They are told to dress alluringly, to keep impotent old Republican men glued to the screen. Watch CNN, and MSNBC, and you'll see accomplished, qualified women, and they'll all be dressed professionally.

Sure, I’ll watch MSLSD and Rachel Madcow, and maybe Fake News Network when she’s not on. Great comedy!