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19 Jan 2019, 10:07 am

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So you're saying it's ok to be prejudice towards Islamic people?


That's not what he's saying Twiz

What is he saying then? :?:


That "islamophobia" is a word specifically invented as a smokescreen to not only silence legitimate criticism of a deranged and authoritarian ideology, but to elevate such criticism to be equivalent to hate and prejudice on the basis of inborn characteristics such as ethnic origin.

I don't even have to go into extremes like the Charlie Hebdo massacre or the danish cartoon debacle (though those should be plenty illuminating), I'll take the more recent example of Icelands proposal to ban genital mutilation of infants. Apparently, a modern muslim life in Iceland would be impossible if the bodily integrity of all infants were to be protected by law. Can you guess which word was shouted the loudest to get this proposed law shut down?


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[Pedantry] Well firstly it's a misattributed quote , it was actually said by Andrew Cummins [/Pedantry]


Well caught. I just always hear Hitch's voice when I read it. The man was a bit of a personal hero of mine, and he wouldn't have liked taking credit for someone else's words.


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oure saying that "nobody hated Islam until somebody coined the phrase 'Islamophobia', which means "hatred of Muslims"


Hatred of Islam, not hatred of muslims. Muslims are people. People have rights. Islam is an ideology.


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19 Jan 2019, 10:08 am

naturalplastic wrote:
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TW1ZTY wrote:
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TW1ZTY wrote:
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So you're saying it's ok to be prejudice towards Islamic people?


That's not what he's saying Twiz

What is he saying then? :?:


[Pedantry] Well firstly it's a misattributed quote , it was actually said by Andrew Cummins [/Pedantry]

Basically it saying people didn't have a problem with Islam till the word was created to create propaganda.


So...

you're saying that "nobody hated Islam until somebody coined the phrase 'Islamophobia', which means "hatred of Muslims", which is meant as a slur against all of the...nonexistent people ...who hate Muslims, and that magically caused folks who didn't hate Muslims to start hating Muslims"?


I tried to simplify it and didn't quite get the point of the quote across , stop f*****g with me you know what the quote means :lol:


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19 Jan 2019, 10:30 am

One thing I admire about muslims... If we had punishments like "caning" here in the US maybe we'd have less criminals. Every gangbanging punk in this country who steals, shoots, mugs, and vandalizes deserves to be stripped naked and whipped with a stick 80 times before a large crowd in my honest opinion. :twisted:

Seriously, we have too many dangerous criminals in this country who get off easy!



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19 Jan 2019, 10:55 am

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You can think the Earth is 6000 years old and that it was created in seven days if you like, but we're not going to stop teaching verifiable facts in schools because it hurts your feelings.

You are entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts.

Everyone is entitled to their own facts, because, PHILOSOPHY 101 ... no human knows the truth.


I’ve seen two of your posts and I have already great respect for you.

Might I add to what you’re saying with our perception is our reality, and it’s not absolute.


I am disappointed by you, hale bopp. You should see her older posts on race threads.



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19 Jan 2019, 10:59 am

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If you replaced the word "atheists" with "Muslims," or "Christians," or 'Hindus," I imagine this thread would not have been made it to a second page. Just a thought.


This thread is turning to a bigotry against atheists and nonreligious sorts.



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19 Jan 2019, 11:04 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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If you replaced the word "atheists" with "Muslims," or "Christians," or 'Hindus," I imagine this thread would not have been made it to a second page. Just a thought.


This thread is turning to a bigotry against atheists and nonreligious sorts.

Well I'm sorry but I find it very frusterating when most of the atheists I talk to are bigots too. What exactly makes them better than a religous person and gives them the right to call them an idiot and mock their beliefs?

Religous people have feelings too and I am sick and damn tired of hearing atheists talk down towards them! NOBODY has the right to look down on ANYBODY! :roll:



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19 Jan 2019, 11:10 am

My attitude toward religion is exactly that:

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19 Jan 2019, 11:16 am

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NOBODY has the right to look down on ANYBODY! :roll:


For any reason?

People in favour of genocide are just as good as people against genocide?


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My attitude toward religion is exactly that:

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Good rule of thumb, but a bit broad strokes. What if "my religion says I can't pay taxes?". My religion says "I can't suffer a witch to live"?


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19 Jan 2019, 11:20 am

I can confirm after asking Jeremy Paxman that Atheists don't actually exist and and that anyone that claims they do is subject to restrictons under the Terrorist Act 1874.



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19 Jan 2019, 11:37 am

Well, since you think atheists target only Christianity (it's because you're only familiar with atheists who live in Christian countries perhaps?), allow me to spam your thread with some atheist memes targeted at Islam


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(Almost a 100 years has passed since this picture was taken. Nothing much has changed: foreign powers & sectarian leaders are still forming alliances, on the expense of the public good, so that they consolidate their own power.

(Proclamation of Grand Lebanon on Sept. 1, 1920).

لقد مرّ ما يقارب المئة عام على التقاط هذه الصورة (اعلان دولة لبنان الكبير في 1920) ولم يتغيّر الكثير منذ ذلك الحين. ما زالت القوى الخارجية تتحالف مع زعماء الطوائف ليعزّز كلّ منهم نفوذه، وذلك على حساب المصلحة العامة.


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"A Pakistani soldier during the Bangladesh Liberation War checking a man’s penis to see whether he is circumcised or not (Hindu or Muslim) and thus decide whether he lives or dies.

- Warfare history page."

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19 Jan 2019, 11:43 am

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Look, there's that darned islamophobia again.


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19 Jan 2019, 12:08 pm

I love it when people twist what I say. Fine whatever! Atheism is the only truth, atheists are the supreme superbeings, and we should all be forced to convert to atheism under threat of death so that the world can be a better place full of happy people who don't believe in anything.

Now leave me the f**k alone all of you! :roll:



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19 Jan 2019, 12:38 pm

Delightful hypocrisy. You say you hate people twisting your words, but then you equate Atheism to Nihilism, pretend atheists are on some crusade of forced conversion and even though you're the one who started this thread throwing s**t at atheists (not even atheism, mind) you're somehow the poor victim here? If you can't handle people taking your low-resolution statements to their logical conclusion to illustrate your bad thinking, maybe this isn't the section for you?


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19 Jan 2019, 12:42 pm

Please take it down a notch or two people , this is not going to end well and I will have no option but to lock the thread.


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19 Jan 2019, 12:47 pm

I don't think believing in a religion makes someone an idiot. There's tons of reasons people are religious, from comfort to them being raised in a certain religion.

With that being said though, I've seen idiotic people who also happen to be religious. That's different from saying that they're idiotic because they are religious. But there's idiotic athiests, too.



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19 Jan 2019, 1:17 pm

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Please take it down a notch or two people , this is not going to end well and I will have no option but to lock the thread.

Actually I think you should go ahead and lock it. :wtg: