Do you agree with bending your knee to show contrition?

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*groan*
Dealing with these strawmen can be frustrating. Or arguments twisted.

Unless you have talked to an idiot or just someone clumsy with words, of course anyone of a race can be racist, people can even be racist against their own race. No racism is good and preferred, but there is a difference of severity when one set of racism is built on historical oppression and one that might be built out of frustration of oppression. Not excusing either, but as a white guy myself I think it is more constructive that I criticise my own racial group rather than tell a black teen to behave as Karen next to me does her stuff.

And just to finish off, do you agree or disagree that black people are more likely to face discrimination from police? Because I feel justified to say that people can have their own opinion on that, but if they disagree it is a dumb and wrong opinion.

Absolutely not.
If that makes me a racist in your eyes so be it.

I think some of this is in order:

Has anyone considered "Black Privilege"?
Or is that too Politically Incorrect?

Rhetorical.
Best not respond if you want this thread to continue,
Or you don't want to be labelled a racist.

Yup.
I was accosted by an aboriginal man and called a "White Kent", *presumably* because I wouldn't give him something.
In every situation I have been accosted in the street, by an aboriginal person, it was a request for money or smokes, and in one instance, for homo-sexual sex *and* money.
I looked and was very naive when I was a young man.
And have the scars of being scammed to show you.
Wanna see?

One guy followed me into a shop.
It was quite intimidating.
As a result, I avoid similar situations wherever I can, these days.

I also avoid *ALL* social interaction on the street, whether the person is black, white or brindle.
Please respect my autism.
Please leave me alone.
And no, I don't personally owe you because of the colour of my skin.

Some people believe that if you are White, you owe them. <shrug>
Am I saying all aboriginal people think the same?
What do *you* think?

Don't take it to heart.
He sees racism *everywhere*.

Edit:
Oh,
You were referring to the thread title,
Not *that* guy.

Okay, I want you to look at these experiences and recontextualize them, that you have been accosted in the street multiple times by aboriginal people that that are in such an economic state that they are trying to beg off you money, cigarettes and even offer prostitution for money. And you take away was that you were being discriminated against based on your skin?

Look at those situations again, don't you see a level of privilege in it being expected that you would have money or smokes to spare, and that they have to beg? You said that it is every time you have been accosted in the street by an aboriginal person it is something like this, do you honestly see a level of economic inequality that is not the same for white people, dare I say from a form of privilege?

And lets go back to what my question actually was, I said like being considered more dangerous by the police for the colour of your skin. I am talking about economic imbalance, where police are usually considered representatives of the system. But your example of how you have been discriminated against was that a beggar called you "White Kent"? If you really don't see the differences in these I just can't take you seriously. I can't believe the level of privilege to consider that being discriminated against based on your skin.




I guess that you tried to pass that off as a joke, but making something a joke does not excuse one saying something. I believe that I already mentioned that there are many types of privileges, such as male, cis, straight, rich, native English speaker, NT, intelligence and age. There indeed can be privileges one may have as part of not being those, being part of a minority, so yes, black privilege is a very possible concept. Maybe one could find themselves more accepted around other people of colour, or there is some sort of other positive racial stereotype that I don't really wanting to try and pick out right now. But those benefits are far outweighed by the negatives, with a far more likely poor economic situation created by a history of discrimination that has not been fixed, and again being part of a minority meaning that most of the time in wider society you are not going to actually benefit much.

I could honestly start lecturing people here on alone how ridiculous the idea of whiteness even is. People act now like it is one hegemony, where you see junk like racists saying that there should be allowed to be a white nation. But history seriously shows but being considered white is not even being something, but that you are something if you are excluded. The Irish used to be considered an exception the in group, facing the sort of discrimination that still has existed through things like jokes about the Irish that presumed that they were dumb. I still have no idea why so Americans actually consider Jewish people to be separate from being white, it usually is not their skin, but there sure are a lot of white supremist that have conspiracies about Jewish people as the enemy of their ideals.

My point is that what is now considered white or Caucasian, is largely an in group that is created in a way that can discriminate against those who are out of it. Not that most people are really aware of that sort of thing, they are just copying what the system showed them, and that system is not fair to all people.

Are you really suggesting that that person would have a harder time vs. the black or indigenous homeless addict who was sexually, physically and verbally abused as a child, who has a noticeable physical deformity and who was bullied incessantly and ostracized because of it, who lived in abject poverty all of his/her life and who dropped out of school and was never able to hold down any kind of job?

Yes, even that person would have 'white privilege' even if they receive no other 'privilege'. It might not amount to much for them, but that wouldn't make it not exist.

So this appears on a Aspies site ......... am just amazed , I see many black people with attitude now acting like they are completely above reproach and then I see. Blacks and Hispanics are more likely to get covid , now there is white privileged used as a excuse for bad behavior amongst these other groups . Right up to and including demands / request for free money from anY non black. Non Hispanic non orientalists person , but not asking other ones of their own race or even people remotely close to their own skin color but this excludes biker looking types or mulatto.
So where is the dividing line here . If you look like a Karen or a person of less demeanor are you the target for these people . Or appear naive , as a lot of Aspies might appear as . is this justifying abusing people whom might be
A little less assertive. Back to the covid issue. Why are black people more prone to get covid. Their culture does not include social distancing .. have been in close proximity to average black family units . They are just a little more physically closer people as are families of average whites ,I think or Average Hispanics . Their cultures persist as a more closely related
In (proximity) then Average white family Units . These are just my perceptions . NOW. What about Aspies whom are Not big on touch .... And are not assertive nor aggressive in demeanor , and perhaps a bit naive , as myself for instance , my opinions were never formed on race or color , it was. Just another person , why do people want me to discriminate .? My. Mindset did not include that in my brains own process of segregating persons . It was more likely
If you treated me fairly and honestly , could have a common ground to speak or enjoy each other’s company .
But the minute you asK me something that you are not willing to do yourself . And are physically capable of doing
Then I have to wonder ? Taking a knee or anything else . Am immediately in a position of why me as a individual with autism. Am not speaking to community as a whole but rather the autistic community .In this my humble opinion.
You may crucify me for this opinion but. It is my opinion based on past and recent observations,& btw the police and lower level gov. I feel , badly need a overhaul on all the issues that have been in the media recently. And even more so.