Can one hate racists and still support donald trump?

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Can one hate racists and still support donald trump?
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NO! Obvs not, duh. djt is racist. 63%  63%  [ 10 ]
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14 Jul 2020, 4:08 am

:lol: Yeah I’m so racist I did the better part of a couple grand worth of (rather beautiful, might I add) work on my neighbours’ house a week or so ago & then refused to charge them a penny because the man of the house has done so much work on our property over the years. My next door neighbours are a black family - and excellent neighbours.

I post the anti racism stuff because there are a select few members of this forum who need to hear those messages because whatever influences they have in their lives, whether family, friends, coworkers, or media - it seems they’ve been getting some wrong messages into their noodles based on the crap they post here. That’s it that’s all, nothing more nothing less.


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14 Jul 2020, 6:38 pm

Can one hate Nazis and still like Hitler?


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14 Jul 2020, 6:51 pm

Can one hate wars for profit, and still support warmongering pieces of corporate s**t like Biden and Hillary? Apparently so, since I know a few hypocrites like that.


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14 Jul 2020, 7:14 pm

League_Girl wrote:
Can one hate Nazis and still like Hitler?


This seems a somewhat unneccesary (and offensive) attempt to suggest a link between people you presumably do not agree with and a rather unlikeable German government from the 1930's/1940's.



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15 Jul 2020, 12:08 am

Brictoria wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Can one hate Nazis and still like Hitler?


This seems a somewhat unneccesary (and offensive) attempt to suggest a link between people you presumably do not agree with and a rather unlikeable German government from the 1930's/1940's.


I think it was a stupid question the OP asked and the poll was biased too but voted in it anyway. So my question was showing how ridiculous the OP's question is.


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15 Jul 2020, 1:58 am

League_Girl wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Can one hate Nazis and still like Hitler?


This seems a somewhat unneccesary (and offensive) attempt to suggest a link between people you presumably do not agree with and a rather unlikeable German government from the 1930's/1940's.


I think it was a stupid question the OP asked and the poll was biased too but voted in it anyway. So my question was showing how ridiculous the OP's question is.


That may have been your intention (who other than you can truly know), but it reads as though an association\link is intended to be made between your statement and the original one, as you provided no commentary at the time in which you made it to clarify that you were NOT intending that association to be made, nor commentary questioning the OP's poll.

Being that there have been several instances on this site where anything vaguely right wing\conservative\"trump supporting" has had similar associations made, that lack of clarification at the time of your original post may lead people to a very different assumption\understanding to that which you now claim was intended.



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22 Jul 2020, 7:37 pm

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To call him a racist misses the point of why he is such a poor president. I believe he truly isn't thinking about whether his supporters are racists when he acknowledges them.

I know it's frowned upon to diagnose based on limiting information. But I want to go a step further and propose a new condition. He seems to have a ND which is the flip side of ASD. Superior social skills and a total lack of analytical skills. I'm sure everyone knows of people on this "spectrum", but he seems to cross the line in a dysfunctional zone. His childhood was as rocky as an aspie's, from what I know. These people can do fine in occupations that suit them as he had dramatically proven. When they're in the wrong occupation they should be fired. Please remember this for the election.


That IS a good summary of his aptitudes. He does have a good instinct for what gets a crowd excited. But he is poor on analytic skills. The real author of the "Art of the Deal" testified that Trump couldnt even analyze his own deal making skills, and had too short of an attention span to be interviewed about it, and so the real author had to just hangout in Trump's office and just watch Trump on the phone -to figure out Trump's style of "deal making".


i dont care to weigh in on politics (any racist is bad but i also know that i know nothing about politics, esp american)
however
the ND vs ASD statement is intriguing and validates what i suspected (and said as much - but withtout the labels, just the people compared)
i guess that also shows ND isn't a choice.. but then, knowing your intent, effect of your actions, that's obvious to Narcs.

i guess there's room for every type of neurology if everyone decides to:
1. have good intent.
2. jointly agree on moral basis
3. try best to improve and take an honest look at themselves regularly
4. take care of each other sincerely

i guess sincerity can have a range of ways it will be applied by people,
including to people with ND...

i guess we cannot look to human beings for validation but some sort of inner thing, that would be a way to mitigate the insecurities both Narcs and ppl with ASD feel (which cause NDs to exploit in a malevolent way, and ppl with ASD to self destruct or lash out - esp at themselves - eg self-injury- at times)


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22 Jul 2020, 9:23 pm

Brictoria wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Can one hate Nazis and still like Hitler?


This seems a somewhat unneccesary (and offensive) attempt to suggest a link between people you presumably do not agree with and a rather unlikeable German government from the 1930's/1940's.


Well, before Portland, the last time a western democracy saw a minority government send out soldiers without insignias to snatch citizens off the street was the ‘rather unlikeable German government’ you mentioned. So there are similarities.



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22 Jul 2020, 11:43 pm

Aristophanes wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Can one hate Nazis and still like Hitler?


This seems a somewhat unneccesary (and offensive) attempt to suggest a link between people you presumably do not agree with and a rather unlikeable German government from the 1930's/1940's.


Well, before Portland, the last time a western democracy saw a minority government send out soldiers without insignias to snatch citizens off the street was the ‘rather unlikeable German government’ you mentioned. So there are similarities.



Hitler invaded countries in EU. Trump is now invading cities in the US. Portland is first while Poland was the first country Hitler had invaded.

Yes the similarities.


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