Why is the US letting so many people over the border?

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18 Mar 2021, 9:48 am

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Oh I see, it's just for people seeking asylum. But why is the US letting a lot more people seeking asylum in than usual to the point where there is now a 'border crisis'? Is there a reason?


If the immigrants are let in by a Democratic Party perhaps they will vote democratic ?


Why would people who hold conservative values immigrate to the US just to vote against their views?



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18 Mar 2021, 9:49 am

If a refugee is of a conservative political bent, this refugee probably wouldn't vote Democratic.

You would be surprised how conservative some Hispanic immigrants can be....



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18 Mar 2021, 9:50 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Jakki wrote:
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Oh I see, it's just for people seeking asylum. But why is the US letting a lot more people seeking asylum in than usual to the point where there is now a 'border crisis'? Is there a reason?


If the immigrants are let in by a Democratic Party perhaps they will vote democratic ?


Why would people who hold conservative values immigrate to the US just to vote against their views?


I vaguely recall a report that Cuban immigrants in Florida overwhelmingly voted for Trump in the 2020 election.



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18 Mar 2021, 10:03 am

They certainly did. One reason is because they are virulently anti-Communist (because they were exiled by Castro), and think of Democrats as being somewhat akin to Communism, and Republicans more friendly to business and "values."



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18 Mar 2021, 10:06 am

Conservatives immigrate to the United States for the same reason liberals immigrate to the United States.

Sometimes, frankly, conservatives don't think. They don't consider that Trump is wholly antithetical to what true conservatives hold dear.



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18 Mar 2021, 1:55 pm

We have people whom owe their being able to immigrate to the current party in power , who is currently trying to sugar coat the immigration process to the current masses at the border,at least from what ,I am hearing in the media
Whom would they give their allegiance if not the party , whom helped get them into this country .
I understand the politics you are referring to but do immigrants, whom might stop and think that deeply when your standing or camped out at a gate for months. I might wonder about that . Just thinking inside the box.


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18 Mar 2021, 2:28 pm

Cos it's a bloody big border.

And cos Statue of Liberty.


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18 Mar 2021, 2:53 pm

Lolz. This makes sense to me . :D


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18 Mar 2021, 2:59 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Conservatives immigrate to the United States for the same reason liberals immigrate to the United States.

Sometimes, frankly, conservatives don't think. They don't consider that Trump is wholly antithetical to what true conservatives hold dear.


What is it that conservatives hold dear?



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18 Mar 2021, 5:10 pm

Conservatism in finance and "family values" to name two.

The maintenance of "tradition," in general---over innovation.

They are, especially, against "social innovations" like gay marriage.



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23 Mar 2021, 5:38 pm

Well after doing some more research some say that the government is allowing in more immigrants now, because it means cheaper labor, if that is a main reason?



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23 Mar 2021, 7:07 pm

Am afraid we have a president that wants to have complete control of the country’s political powers .
And according to the news is running the country into bankruptcy... passing another trillions of dollars of
Support for his own ideas . Thinking that it will improve things . Conservative ideas that hurt some of the people , I don’t think help . Anyone in the long run . Particularly if it costs the entire country . Media here reports that
He is fast tracking the immigrant children on their own . And asked for others to wait in their own countries . Till he is sure the country
Is ready . This opinion is based on the local media reports. Besides looking at Our current president face,
Reminds me of what a anti christ might look like. He appears to have had a lower face lift but not a upper one so his tight little centered eyes , and the stretch marks on the sides of his upper forehead . Give him a sinister look to his face , when the camera is aiming at him straight on . This is just my impression of his recent appearances for interviews .


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23 Mar 2021, 7:20 pm

ironpony wrote:
Well after doing some more research some say that the government is allowing in more immigrants now, because it means cheaper labor, if that is a main reason?


America was built on immigration. How well are native Americans doing right now? Anyone in America who isn't a Native Indian is descended from immigrants. So there's a hypocrisy in slamming the door in anyone's face because they're somehow a burden, or a locust-like plague. Basically "We're having it good, now clear off!". It's only good (subjectively) precisely because people came IN.



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23 Mar 2021, 10:14 pm

Well I never have a problem with immigrants coming in, it's just that in my experience, it was ruined businesses I have worked for in the past to a degree. They would hire immigrants in order to have extremely cheap labor, because the immigrants wouldn't complain about it.

There was a job I worked where they wanted us to work over 60 hours a week for example, and cut down on holidays, and a minority of us non-immigrants would complain to the board about it, but the board would not do anything much because we were a minority and the immigrants would not back us up, even though our employers were technically breaking the labor laws, and the immigrants were silent about it, and that's why the majority of people hired were immigrants I think, because they would keep their mouths shut about it.

So it's not that I have a problem with immigrants coming in at all, it's just I don't like the labor laws being broken because of it. Bring in immigrants but don't break the laws as a result. So its' not that I have a problem with immigration it's just that it bothers me that if they see a crimes such as those, they keep it swept under the rug. And the economy gets worse because of it, so I am all for immigration as long as they don't use that as an excuse to break labor laws.



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23 Mar 2021, 11:25 pm

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Well I never have a problem with immigrants coming in, it's just that in my experience, it was ruined businesses I have worked for in the past to a degree. They would hire immigrants in order to have extremely cheap labor, because the immigrants wouldn't complain about it.

There was a job I worked where they wanted us to work over 60 hours a week for example, and cut down on holidays, and a minority of us non-immigrants would complain to the board about it, but the board would not do anything much because we were a minority and the immigrants would not back us up, even though our employers were technically breaking the labor laws, and the immigrants were silent about it, and that's why the majority of people hired were immigrants I think, because they would keep their mouths shut about it.

So it's not that I have a problem with immigrants coming in at all, it's just I don't like the labor laws being broken because of it. Bring in immigrants but don't break the laws as a result. So its' not that I have a problem with immigration it's just that it bothers me that if they see a crimes such as those, they keep it swept under the rug. And the economy gets worse because of it, so I am all for immigration as long as they don't use that as an excuse to break labor laws.


Corporations don’t usually care about labour laws , until they are caught , Then because they are corporations.
It usually is a slap on the wrist or at best a fine. The difference between Corporation’s and humans is quite obvious.
One is a slave to the corporation , the other is a supporting member of the larger economy. 8O


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23 Mar 2021, 11:34 pm

ironpony wrote:
Why Is The US Letting So Many People Over The Border?

Umm, maybe because there aren't enough tunnels to let them under the border?
:lol: :wink:


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