I’m fed up with people not liking vaccine mandates

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oh my.
can anyone explain me how exactly can leaky vaccine /means that vaccinated one can STILL get infected and spread virus, plus of course all those vax mandate enthusiasts are conveniently forgetting that covid can, and will spread through animals as well. Cats, dogs, even animals in zoo can catch and spread covid.
so once more, how exactly are those forced jabs supposed to end pandemic?
no screams and cliches, but links to studies.

Odd to demand “links to studies” and “no screams and cliches” while providing No links to studies, only screams and cliches. Given that you ignored the last bunch of studies I posted, it is hard to view this as a good-faith inquiry from a curious mind.

I was unable to find any evidence of pet-to-human transmission, although to an extent this isn’t surprising as it would be hard to detect while the virus is still circulating among the human population. In any case, pets do not tend to have much close contact with people other than their owners. If the pet is in close contact then the owner probably is too. I’m therefore not overly concerned by the possibility.

As for zoo animals, again this seems like a red herring as they tend to only come into contact with their keepers.

While the vaccines are not 100% effective, they do significantly reduce infection and therefore transmission, as well as symptom severity. The effect upon transmission is not as significant as the symptom reduction - getting vaccinated as a preventative measure is the best thing we have for reducing deaths from COVID.

60-70, she's upset she can't go skiing because the gondolas are small spaces where you're close to other people, so Austria decided skiing this season is for vaccinated or recovered only.
Personally, I think it's fine for her to get omicron, suffer a little in isolation and go skiing afterwards, but she doesn't show any signs of intending to isolate. my brother uninvited her for christmas because she refused to do a lateral flow test... so she just went to see my grandma, 95. yay.

And as most of us already know, ya can’t fix stupid!

Looking at the risk numbers (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8459904/) I can understand why you might be concerned about her - that looks to be around the point where risk starts to accelerate.

With that said, it comes down to the situation that each person has (or should have) the right to only have medical treatment\procdures performed on them where they have consented to such, rather than being forced into such things against their will... If they make the wrong decision, they are the ones who face the consequences: The most you can do is ensure she is aware of the risks for not doing what you believe is in her best interests.

what I want to know is why do people still care about people who don't want to get the vaccine. If they don't want to get it let them face the consequences but the government still cares about them and still wants them to get vaccinated even though they don't want to.

There are pandemic laws and the gov needs to follow them.

Because the more of them who can eventually be persuaded to get vaccinated the more it benefits the rest of the population the government cares about.

Or, to sand through the polish of politeness and thereby expose a bit of a cynical layer;

The more of them who live, the more there are to ensure the continuance of jobs and function for that government via paying taxes, working to contribute to the economy and connected tax revenue; and the more there are who will use government programs and continue voting for government politicians who support those programs.

Or, to look at the government as a person, "I want YOU to get vaccinated because it benefits ME."

How does it benefit the government personally though?

But also, I don't think they can convince a lot of people though to do this, and people do not realize human stubborness when it comes to their 'my body, my choice' philosophy. The government just has to realize it's a no win issue and give up and end the mandate.

As Kites said, the government benefits from having a healthy population, and the vaccine is a very cheap, low effort, very effective way to keep healthy.

Healthy people are more likely to be able to support themselves (so they require less support from the government), and are more likely to pay more taxes (which funds the government).

The vaccine protects not only the individual, but also people around them.

As has been said, the government benefits by staying in power.

I don't know if making vaccination compulsory can work or not. Most laws attract a certain amount of resistance. It's an interesting moral argument that "it's my body" - unfortunately that ignores the bodies the unvaccinated may infect. Not quite the same thing as compulsory fluoride in the drinking water for example, yet I didn't see so much protest about that. I guess vaccines became a big political issue because the right-wingers played down Covid, seeing short-term profits as the only important thing there is. Similarly, they play down global warming. A sizeable proportion of Tory MPs in the UK are currently demanding an unqualified guarantee that there will be no more lockdowns.

Vaccines also keep people out of hospitals, and allows non-COVID patients to get relatively decent treatment.

This also cuts health care costs. Cutting health care costs benefits the government.

The benefits of vaccination far outweighs the risks----for people, for governments, etc. Still, I do wish it would prevent the disease.

vaccinated have same viral load as unvaccinated,

https://ncrc.jhsph.edu/research/vaccina ... a-variant/

so saying that mandatory jab will curb the spread of covid is not true.

omicron is escape variant, so mandatory jab makes even less sense

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41423-021-00836-z

and datas from Israel, of course.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/17/omicron ... ctive.html
so once more, what is the scientific base of mandatory blanket jab now, when omicron escape variant is all around

Never said it "curbs the spread of COVID." I said it tends to lessen the severity of COVID, and causes fewer hospitalizations, and allows people who are hospitalized to get discharged earlier. It leaves more room for people who have other diseases to be treated.

Like I said, I wish the COVID vaccines had similar qualities to the Polio vaccines----but they do have their uses.

The nature article is the second paper I read where they are discussing a hydro-immunity for those that have previous natural immunity. Both papers recommend the booster only. So three immunities; natural, vaxxd, and a mix.

Other viruses only require one vaccine adminstration a year though like the flu. Are we sure people are not just overdoing it with three?