New Age spirituality has become a cesspool of garbage

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Here is a wikipedia article that might can explain neopaganism better than I can?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_ ... ear%20East.

Yes. "Abrahamic" means the dominant western Eurasian monotheistic faiths that each trace their ancestry to Abraham in the Old Testament of the Bible who (if he really existed)probably lived about 2000 BC, and according to the Bible made the first covenant with the God Yahweh. The biggest of these being Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and Mormonism.

Then there are the "Dharmic" faiths that have their roots in India and believe in dharma and karma (rebirth and moral cause and effects spanning infinite lifetimes). These being Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism. The Sikhs are an interesting bunch in India who are in both categories. Founded about the same time that Luther founded Protestantism in Europe Sikhism is a blend of Islam and Hinduism and has beliefs from both Abrahamic and Dharmic roots.

I always thought Mormonism was just another form of Christianity? Ive even heard some people say it's merely a widespread cult because their founder Joseph Smith was a pretty sketchy guy...

...but then again I could say the same about Gerald Gardner who founded wicca. After reading about some of his claims I've recently come to the conclusion that Gardner was full of a lot of B.S. which is why I don't try to connect with wicca anymore and have been searching for alternatives.

Kinda like the Druze. The Druze claim to be Muslim, but both Shiites and Sunnies agree that they are so far out in their theology that the Druze arent really Muslim.

The Mormons added a whole new third testament to the Bible (the Book of Mormon), major heresy right there.

So despite centuries of warfare between Protestants and Catholics both Protestants and Catholics (and the Eastern Orthodox as well) agree that the Mormons are too far out to be "Christians". Though Mormons always branded themselves as Christians.

So slice it how you want I guess. Christians. Or as a heretical cult with roots in Christianity.

Thanks for the info, that helps!

I know a lot of Mormons, aren't they the same as Latter Day Saints? They are REALLY weird people. I avoid them.

Yup they are. They had a church up the road from where I used to live too. I met a couple of mormon ladies once who seemed nice but when I learned about their beliefs I thought it was very bizarre.

Most Mormons really aren’t all that kooky.

They belong to the Church of Latter Day Saints.

Yeah the ladies I met did seem genuinenly nice I admit. They even helped me and my brother load something heavy in the back of my mom's truck (which was how i met them).

Theyre one and the same.

Outsiders call them "the Mormons" because they add on that third book (the Book of Mormon) to the Bible.

They call themselves "the Church of Latter-Day Saints" because in their faith every member is a "saint", and by the relatively recent 19th century founding of the church most of the recognized saints in Christianity were already ancient. So they are ALL "later day saints". Or thats my understanding of it.

They are nice to talk to but the ones I know are very right wing, in favour of guns and don't do anything unless their pastor/church tells them it's okay e.g. they take their voting slips to church and are told what box to tick.

Isn't that illegal about the voting?

And of course they don't believe in abortion or allowing women to have any sort of bodily autonomy, which makes me see red immediately. I think their husbands are automatically head of the household and everyone obeys him. What century are we in again??

Agreed, they also have some pretty racist views from what I have heard.

Yep....that's pretty much true amongst the Mormons. Most of them, though, don't wear the religious fanaticism on their sleeve.

They used to practice polygamy; but very very few do nowadays.

Of course it's illegal for somebody to force another person to vote "their way."

They also used to believe that the only way to atone for certain sins like murder was by having your own blood spilt. Which was why they favored executions by firing squad rather than hanging or by lethal injection.

There was a condemned prisoner a few years back in Utah named Ronnie Gardner who requested to be executed by firing squad for this reason.

Firing squad is actually still an option in Utah.

I know, and Utah was also where the Mormon religion was founded I think?

NO. No. No.

It was where the Mormons ended up.
Joseph Smith founded the relgion in New England. It spread through the east. But the relgion got persecuted. And the geographic center of gravity gradually moved west to the Mississippi, and the state of Illinois. But they still got persecuted.

Finnally Brigham young lead them on an epic migration across the whole unsettled west- to the empty wilderness of Utah (which actually belonged to Mexico in that pre Mexican War time), and that where they settled. They tried growing crops, but then locusts attacked their crops, but...then a big swarm of sea gulls attacked the locusts and saved their asses in a Biblical style miracle that is still commemorated in a statue of a flock of sea gulls today in Salt Lake City.

Free to run their own region they survived and thats how Utah became the core of Mormonism, and became mostly Mormon til this day.


There was constant tension with Washington -as the rest of the West got settled by Americans in the post Mexican War era- especially over Polygamy. But finnally in the late 19th Century the Mormons caved to abolishing polygamy. Except for the fanatical rogue communities that still practice it in outlying areas even today.

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