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20 Oct 2023, 4:07 pm

For the record, any harm I might hypothetically wish on any WP poster would be entirely due to their extremely poor character or foolish ideas, not their immutable characteristics or where they're from. Definitely not fond of the Commonwealth countries though.


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20 Oct 2023, 7:22 pm

Barchan wrote:
Like two sticks in a bundle.


Are you trying to be clever?


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21 Oct 2023, 2:47 am

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For the record, any harm I might hypothetically wish on any WP poster would be entirely due to their extremely poor character or foolish ideas.
Still victim-blaming, I see.

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21 Oct 2023, 9:21 am

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Two other guys in this thread feel like they're just one beer away from telling me to go back to my country,

AsPartOfMe has been posting here for a very long time and I've never seen him say anything like that to anyone. It's not Dox47's style either, as far as I can tell.

In any case, bigoted remarks like that are against the rules here. If anyone here makes a bigoted remark like that to you, feel free to report it to the mods. I'll report it too if I see anyone make such a remark to you.

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but maybe that's just my own trauma from post-9/11 islamophobia that I'm projecting onto them.

Post-9/11 islamophobia must have been an awful thing to have to deal with!

I've known people who weren't even Muslim who had really bad things happen to them because someone thought they were Muslim, or thought they were a terrorist for some really stupid reason such as having a beard.

My partner has often been told to "go back to your country," even though his ancestors have lived here for hundreds of years (he's a Mayflower descendant), but people ASSume he's an immigrant because he has a speech impairment, which gets mistaken for a foreign accent.

I'm sure the decade or so immediately after 9/11 was far worse for actual Muslim immigrants in many parts of the U.S.A., and probably in many other Western countries too. I'm very sorry you've had to deal with this.


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22 Oct 2023, 10:08 am

"Fascism" is very clearly defined to everyone except for the fascists themselves, who resist the label for tactical reasons, namely that it's harder to criticize a nameless group. We've been over this many times. :wink:



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22 Oct 2023, 10:19 am

Fnord wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
For the record, any harm I might hypothetically wish on any WP poster would be entirely due to their extremely poor character or foolish ideas.
Still victim-blaming, I see.

"It's YOUR fault if I beat you up!" -- a typical bully

Glad to see I'm not the only one who sees what's happening here. There's something horribly wrong with the culture of this site if the moderators will take a firm stance on "gRoOmErs" (trans woman here, I'm one of those scary groomers y'all are always hearing about), but will sit on their hands and watch an ESL speaker get bullied for being too literate. This website is gradually turning into /pol/ and no one's stopping it from happening.

And I'm sorry, Mona, but "haha there are no racists here, it's against the rules" is such a tired take that I don't even want to address it. Read theory, people. Read the books that the fascists don't want you to read.



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22 Oct 2023, 10:46 am

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(trans woman here, I'm one of those scary groomers y'all are always hearing about),

Since you've just gotten here I want to clarify that that's not what the pinned thread is about. That part is fine, actually. But the rest of your reply is spot-on.



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22 Oct 2023, 11:12 am

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There's something horribly wrong with the culture of this site if the moderators will take a firm stance on "gRoOmErs" (trans woman here, I'm one of those scary groomers y'all are always hearing about), but will sit on their hands and watch an ESL speaker get bullied for being too literate. This website is gradually turning into /pol/ and no one's stopping it from happening.


Do you have proof of that?

Have you reported posts that you think are bullying and been told it's not by moderators?

Moderators/Admin are not omnipresent, they do not see all, they need members to be their eyes.


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22 Oct 2023, 11:39 am

MushroomPrincess wrote:
There's something horribly wrong with the culture of this site if the moderators will take a firm stance on "gRoOmErs" (trans woman here, I'm one of those scary groomers y'all are always hearing about), but will sit on their hands and watch an ESL speaker get bullied for being too literate.
You have no idea what's happening in private and off-thread.
I suggest you read the sticky about grooming to get, you know, some idea of what it's about.

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This website is gradually turning into /pol/ and no one's stopping it from happening.
It's apparently escaped your attention that this thread is in the Politics, Philosophy, and Religion forum.


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22 Oct 2023, 4:36 pm

I don't think that teachers are grooming any school students. I think that old-fashioned types want to groom people into fitting into tiny pink and blue boxes.


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22 Oct 2023, 4:47 pm

MushroomPrincess wrote:
This website is gradually turning into /pol/ and no one's stopping it from happening.


I'm not sure that's true, there's a lot of people working to ensure that never happens.

The sticky about grooming isn't related to transpeople, it's related to former users who were actively trying to manipulate vulnerable adult posters on this site.


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22 Oct 2023, 5:17 pm

Cornflake wrote:
MushroomPrincess wrote:
There's something horribly wrong with the culture of this site if the moderators will take a firm stance on "gRoOmErs" (trans woman here, I'm one of those scary groomers y'all are always hearing about), but will sit on their hands and watch an ESL speaker get bullied for being too literate.
You have no idea what's happening in private and off-thread.
I suggest you read the sticky about grooming to get, you know, some idea of what it's about.

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This website is gradually turning into /pol/ and no one's stopping it from happening.
It's apparently escaped your attention that this thread is in the Politics, Philosophy, and Religion forum.

Barchan already got me up to speed, thanks