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Why does the Catholic chruch defend illegal immigration?
because it is the christian thing to do 48%  48%  [ 13 ]
because most illegal immigrants are catholic 52%  52%  [ 14 ]
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30 Jul 2008, 11:45 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
It's fun to see Chick talking about cookie worshipping, while every Christian would be guilty of paper worshiping under the same logic.


Please explain this to me. Cookie worshipping and now paper worshipping?



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30 Jul 2008, 11:50 pm

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The Catholic inner party line(pun intented Orwell!) is that god started evolution and that environmental factors now steer the outcome. The machine is perpetual. After the initial activation it runs on its own.

:lol: Hm, that's a different take on the Catholic theistic evolution view than I've heard before (not saying it's wrong, since I don't care enough to look very deeply into it). It sounds somewhat like Newton's "clockmaker" analogy and thus slightly deist. I had been under the impression the theistic evolution implied that God somehow guided evolution. Of course, what form this guidance takes could just as easily be setting up favorable initial conditions and then letting it run on its own, so your explanation still seems to work.

In any case, my church's leadership was prudent enough to have a better grasp of the boundaries of their knowledge: they are theologians, not scientists, and do not publish issue statements attempting to rule on scientific matters. Instead, they merely say that, after their study and prayer, they find no conflict between Christian faith and scientific knowledge, and church members are free to believe what they choose rather than take biology lessons from the clergy.

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05 Aug 2008, 3:56 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
It's fun to see Chick talking about cookie worshipping, while every Christian would be guilty of paper worshiping under the same logic.


Please explain this to me. Cookie worshipping and now paper worshipping?


First, "Vexcalibur" is wrong about "under the same logic". What he does mean is that Jack Chick claims that Roman Catholics, since they believe that the Host is the actual Body of Christ, must, therefore worship a "cookie". Vexcalibur extends this to Bibliolatry, which is, unfortunately, far too common among Western Christians, who worship the Bible instead of the God about whom the Bible is written. My own Church, on the other hand, makes it quite plain that the Bible is not the "Word of God" (not the Divine Logos) but is, instead, "words from God" or "words about God".