Will creationists have a problem with this?

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11 Sep 2008, 5:28 am

Upon your mention of that white hole, I decided to look up this Humphrey fellow, and I don't think we were quite on the same page (though close). Unless a white hole's actually discovered (I'd imagine it would give off quite a lot of easily-visible energy, gamma ray bursts perhaps?), this argument really isn't that strong. And wouldn't it say that the white hole created the solar system, not God? But saying that God created the white hole to create the universe isn't much different than saying God created the Big Bang in order to create the world, except the latter has more evidence, and the contradictions in the bible from this can merely be a case of misinterpretations and early man's inability to understand the concept of "billions of years".



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11 Sep 2008, 6:00 am

DNForrest wrote:
Upon your mention of that white hole, I decided to look up this Humphrey fellow, and I don't think we were quite on the same page (though close). Unless a white hole's actually discovered (I'd imagine it would give off quite a lot of easily-visible energy, gamma ray bursts perhaps?), this argument really isn't that strong. And wouldn't it say that the white hole created the solar system, not God? But saying that God created the white hole to create the universe isn't much different than saying God created the Big Bang in order to create the world, except the latter has more evidence, and the contradictions in the bible from this can merely be a case of misinterpretations and early man's inability to understand the concept of "billions of years".


Whether an example is discovered or not really matter's little as long as they are physically permissible according to current physical laws. Why would a white hole create a transcendent being? Which version of the Big Bang are you referring to?



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11 Sep 2008, 6:27 am

A white hole's just theoretical, and is described as a time-reversal of a black hole. This would require an inversion of forces, which just goes into iffy physics territories, where you can calculate how it may work, but that doesn't mean that it does (theoretical does not mean undeniably allowed under physical laws). You can calculate theoretical anti-pressure (time reversal of pressure), but that doesn't mean it exists in this universe. It appears more of physicist thinking up random things related to other currently-known things and wondering "Is this possible? How would it work?"

Never said it creates a transcending being, and I go with any theory of the Big Bang that results in exceedingly large quantity of matter being expelled every which way in a small amount of time.