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16 Sep 2008, 10:23 pm

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Im just trying to figure out what you think it is?.. the only difference between a creationist and an evolutionist is that it's on the opposite side of the coin.


One side of the coin is evolution. The other side includes creationism, Hindu creation myths, Stories of Zeus and Aphrodite, Native American stories about a Giant Turtle that Formed our World, and all other non-rational, non-provable literature.


*farts* :thumbdown: .. by the way natives dont think a giant turtle formed our world, usually the story is about a serpent alien God..



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16 Sep 2008, 10:26 pm

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No, because the video I gave you was an attorney stating that the federal income tax was illegal and he doesn't pay his taxes, and that was 2007 I believe.. how can an attorney get away with it if it's illegal to do that?.. sorry but this doesn't add up at all. There has to be a reason he can get away with it.

He convinced one jury to agree with him, so what? If it were actually legal to do what he's doing, wouldn't every lawyer in the country be doing it? Heck, my uncle's a tax attorney and he pays the income tax. The guy on that video never specified what type of attorney he was, so the argument from authority quite possibly is not even from a legitimate authority on the subject.


Welp, you lost me there.. most of the IRS can't find the law that states you must pay federal income tax, so of course they are going to pay it. Your uncle pays it because it's not a risk worth taking or he's also unaware. I'm convinced it's an illegal tax.. The man in the video is an attorney and won a court case.. if it were cut and dry he would NOT win. Taxes shouldnt be a mystery, should they?.. if there is such mystery to it, then there is something wrong with it.



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17 Sep 2008, 3:17 am

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I'm probably leaving here soon, so I'd like to do so on good terms. Take care Phagocyte, GreenBlue, Anubis, AG, Orwell, Slowmutant, and all the rest. Hope I'll stay, but now I'm uncertain.


why would you leave???



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17 Sep 2008, 6:42 am

ShawnWilliam wrote:
monty wrote:
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Im just trying to figure out what you think it is?.. the only difference between a creationist and an evolutionist is that it's on the opposite side of the coin.


One side of the coin is evolution. The other side includes creationism, Hindu creation myths, Stories of Zeus and Aphrodite, Native American stories about a Giant Turtle that Formed our World, and all other non-rational, non-provable literature.


*farts* :thumbdown: .. by the way natives dont think a giant turtle formed our world, usually the story is about a serpent alien God..


You just don't want to teach both sides of the story.

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17 Sep 2008, 7:39 am

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the only difference between a creationist and an evolutionist is that it's on the opposite side of the coin.


The difference is that one is evidence-based science and the other is complete faith. Not only are they actually two different coins, but they are also probably sitting in different change drawers.


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17 Sep 2008, 12:00 pm

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the only difference between a creationist and an evolutionist is that it's on the opposite side of the coin.


The difference is that one is evidence-based science and the other is complete faith. Not only are they actually two different coins, but they are also probably sitting in different change drawers.


no the evolution theory is a non-proven theory



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17 Sep 2008, 12:01 pm

monty wrote:
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monty wrote:
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Im just trying to figure out what you think it is?.. the only difference between a creationist and an evolutionist is that it's on the opposite side of the coin.


One side of the coin is evolution. The other side includes creationism, Hindu creation myths, Stories of Zeus and Aphrodite, Native American stories about a Giant Turtle that Formed our World, and all other non-rational, non-provable literature.


*farts* :thumbdown: .. by the way natives dont think a giant turtle formed our world, usually the story is about a serpent alien God..


You just don't want to teach both sides of the story.

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lol.. creationism has NOTHING to do with giant turtles. You go ahead and tell your fake madeup story.



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17 Sep 2008, 12:11 pm

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the only difference between a creationist and an evolutionist is that it's on the opposite side of the coin.


The difference is that one is evidence-based science and the other is complete faith. Not only are they actually two different coins, but they are also probably sitting in different change drawers.


no the evolution theory is a non-proven theory


Yeah it's science and therefore always unproven by definition; I hope you have a point


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17 Sep 2008, 12:21 pm

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the only difference between a creationist and an evolutionist is that it's on the opposite side of the coin.


The difference is that one is evidence-based science and the other is complete faith. Not only are they actually two different coins, but they are also probably sitting in different change drawers.


no the evolution theory is a non-proven theory


Yeah it's science and therefore always unproven by definition; I hope you have a point

Unless it's a fact.
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/library/ ... heory.html


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17 Sep 2008, 12:26 pm

As far as I know, nothing in science is ever really 'proven' b/c it is empirical

My point is that saying "evolution is only an unproven theory" is a meaningless statement


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17 Sep 2008, 12:28 pm

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chever wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
Phagocyte wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
the only difference between a creationist and an evolutionist is that it's on the opposite side of the coin.


The difference is that one is evidence-based science and the other is complete faith. Not only are they actually two different coins, but they are also probably sitting in different change drawers.


no the evolution theory is a non-proven theory


Yeah it's science and therefore always unproven by definition; I hope you have a point

Unless it's a fact.
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/library/ ... heory.html


gee, how pretty.. I should make one of those.


and it is NOT fact.. :lol: :lmao:

what about prehistoric beasts still being alive today?.. if I find a terredactal (sp?) in Africa, will you believe me? or a prehistoric whale in the sea?... That is what it all boils down to.. they dont teach things that are uncommon in the school classroom, do they?.. no, they teach crap. If it's not in the textbooks, then it does not exist, and therefor does not effect the evolution theory.



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17 Sep 2008, 12:29 pm

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As far as I know, nothing in science is ever really 'proven' b/c it is empirical

My point is that saying "evolution is only an unproven theory" is a meaningless statement


welcome to my world.



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17 Sep 2008, 12:40 pm

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what about prehistoric beasts still being alive today?.. if I find a terredactal (sp?) in Africa, will you believe me? or a prehistoric whale in the sea?... That is what it all boils down to.. they dont teach things that are uncommon in the school classroom, do they?.. no, they teach crap. If it's not in the textbooks, then it does not exist, and therefor does not effect the evolution theory.


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(Does not debunk evolution)


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17 Sep 2008, 12:40 pm

ShawnWilliam wrote:
twoshots wrote:
chever wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
Phagocyte wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
the only difference between a creationist and an evolutionist is that it's on the opposite side of the coin.


The difference is that one is evidence-based science and the other is complete faith. Not only are they actually two different coins, but they are also probably sitting in different change drawers.


no the evolution theory is a non-proven theory


Yeah it's science and therefore always unproven by definition; I hope you have a point

Unless it's a fact.
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/library/ ... heory.html


gee, how pretty.. I should make one of those.


and it is NOT fact.. :lol: :lmao:

what about prehistoric beasts still being alive today?.. if I find a terredactal (sp?) in Africa, will you believe me? or a prehistoric whale in the sea?... That is what it all boils down to.. they dont teach things that are uncommon in the school classroom, do they?.. no, they teach crap. If it's not in the textbooks, then it does not exist, and therefor does not effect the evolution theory.

I don't see how finding a supposedly extinct animal would demonstrate anything except that it wasn't really extinct. In fact, animals turn up sometimes that were thought to be extinct, e.g. the coelocanth.


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17 Sep 2008, 12:42 pm

See previous post :lol:

btw, I found out it's 'coelacanth' today; I was under the impression that it were 'coelocanth' until today too


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17 Sep 2008, 3:00 pm

ah, well it would damage the evolution theory because if a species that they 'know' is millions of years old turns out to be still alive, and unevolved, then that says a lot about macro evolution and it's non-existence.. if things evolve, then EVERYthing evolves, perhaps not the same way, but all things are affected by the theory.