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19 Sep 2008, 7:31 pm

Funny, when the sniper's bullet took me out, I didn't feel a thing.

Guess that proves that a form of life continues after the biological processes of the body have stopped functioning.

Being serious just for a second, I think that we're dealing with a difference in assumptions rather than a difference in conclusions. Different assumptions rarely lead to identical conclusions.

Most people I've known assume that their assumptions are correct.

Me, I don't believe much of anything, so I'm entirely comfortable accepting that certain things are unknowable. Not unknown and not wrong, but unknowable. Like whether some form of life continues after the death of the body.

Science may someday find access to these questions. Was it Democritus in ancient Greece who postulated the existence of atoms? Bacteria were there for a long time before the invention of the microscope.

Personally, I'd be bored out of my mind living in a world devoid of mystery, where I understood everything, or thought I did.


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19 Sep 2008, 9:04 pm

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Personally, I'd be bored out of my mind living in a world devoid of mystery, where I understood everything, or thought I did.


I can't tell you how much I admire this statement.



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20 Sep 2008, 10:45 am

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Anyone here believe in reincarnation?

Not at all, since there is no verifiable evidence for it.

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For those who don't, what do you believe?

That reincarnation is a fallacy.

ther is also no evidence for the existence of god, Jesus or Extra terrestrials and yet people believe in them


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20 Sep 2008, 11:15 am

The mere fact that a large number of people believe in an idea does not mean that the idea itself is true.


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20 Sep 2008, 11:22 am

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(Psst! It was an icy cometary fragment! Shhh!)


How could ice survive entering the atmosphere? It would vaporize.



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20 Sep 2008, 11:23 am

Fnord wrote:
The mere fact that a large number of people believe in an idea does not mean that the idea itself is true.


This applies to everything.



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20 Sep 2008, 11:25 am

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(Psst! It was an icy cometary fragment! Shhh!)


How could ice survive entering the atmosphere? It would vaporize.

... and EXPLODE!

Try this test. Fill a glass jar with water. Close the lid tightly. Place it in a fire. Stand back. Watch it explode.

Duh?


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20 Sep 2008, 11:26 am

Fnord wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
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(Psst! It was an icy cometary fragment! Shhh!)


How could ice survive entering the atmosphere? It would vaporize.

... and EXPLODE!

Try this test. Fill a glass jar with water. Close the lid tightly. Place it in a fire. Stand back. Watch it explode.

Duh?


Ahhh, yes. Thank you.



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20 Sep 2008, 7:59 pm

Fnord wrote:
The mere fact that a large number of people believe in an idea does not mean that the idea itself is true.


that is as true as a holy cow 8)


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17 Sep 2012, 7:09 pm

Has anybody examined the 'Past-Life Forum" at www.childpastlives.org ?

The concept of reincarnation becomes in-depth regarding people with strong long-term memory abilities (long-term memory can be characteristic with Autism Specturm disorders (my own personal experience)).

What can we make of memories (mostly spontaneous during meditation, or in that half-asleeep/half-awake states) of times and places we've never vistited? Of times and places remembered in a full demension i.e, not remembered through films, television or other image media?

Furthermore, memories are animated, clear and in full-color; during times when films were in 'black and white' -- or even before movie cameras were invented.

Again, for those of us with strong long-term memory abilities, the topic of reincarnation deserves further investigation.

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17 Sep 2012, 8:21 pm

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Has anybody examined the 'Past-Life Forum" at www.childpastlives.org


Yes, I'm actually a registered member! I can safely say that since I no longer post there but I enjoyed it as much as I do WP now. I had some very intelligent discussions when I was active there.

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Again, for those of us with strong long-term memory abilities, the topic of reincarnation deserves further investigation.


Yes, it absolutely does. I have hit an impasse where I cannot prove my extensive memories are of a real past life but I have not found anything in my research that contradicts what I 'remember'. I have also had children casually tell me about their past lives like it was no big deal (and it was so fast I can see why most parents wouldn't catch it). It always seemed 'obvious' when I was a child so I would say 'probably yes' if I asked if I believe in the concept loosely known as reincarnation.



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17 Sep 2012, 8:34 pm

I've had several experiences that lead me to believe in past lives. two of them involved dying rather traumatically when young, and one was rather pleasant and involved more of a "hello" from someone I'd loved last time around.


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17 Sep 2012, 9:11 pm

Yes, I believe in reincarnation.


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17 Sep 2012, 10:17 pm

I would love to beleive in reincarnation. But I haven't seen anything to really convince me of it. I believe more so that here on the earth there is a life energy, that has patterns and cycles, and we are part of it. After I die, the matters that concerned my cerebral self will no longer be relevant and what made me a living creature witll be returned to the earth. It isn't going anywhere else I know of. I've heard it said "From a man a tree". I'm really ok with that idea - with the death of my concious self as I now know it. What's to cling to? We are all going to die one day. If I do, and something fantastic happens I don't know about, then super I'll find out then. As for scepticism, I like what I can see and touch. But I am open minded enough to understand that the earth was once thought flat, lighting was the gods, there was no concept of an atom. If some new element of our reality is discovered to shed light on the nature of life, then I would welcome the knowledge. :D



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17 Sep 2012, 11:18 pm

There is an old (and bad) joke about the guy who said he was a Frisbeetarian. He believed that, after he died, his soul ended up on the roof, and no one could get it off.


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18 Sep 2012, 12:01 am

I am sure now thta I have had past lives...I was an old priest from a high priest caste in Mexico...More than confirmations by a shaman in Peru, and my visions with ayayahuasca and San Pedro (mescaline), have pointed it out. I also have a very good long term memory...


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