Insipid Sentimentality

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Human beings are constantly complaining about what's "wrong with the world", by which they mean War, AIDS, rape, starvation, cancer, etc. and so on.
I take a lot of issue with this for very specific reasons.
The reason war and genocide exist is to keep down the human population. In this world in which we are plagued with an unnecessary amount of surplus population, are war and genocide really bad things? I think not. Immoral, maybe, bot not bad. The same goes for AIDS, Cancer, and Starvation. The "fight" against all of these things is a futile one, fought by idiots unable to accept and love their reality. Such people can never be satisfied nor happy if they persist in these ridiculous attempts to "combat" necessary, unalterable aspects of life. We fight wars because we are meant to. We kill millions of people because we are meant to. Most are simply too blinded by their emotions to see this.
The reason rape exists is to diversify the gene pool. Rape (by which I mean heterosexual male on-female-rape, the only kind that society actually takes seriously) isn't a crime because it hurts women, it is, on an evolutionary level, a crime because the woman is being impregnated with unfamiliar genes, most likely defective in an instance in the case of a man who would resort to rape. In countries and civilizations where it is the woman's parents' duty to select her mate 'honour killings' are performed on the woman for the sole evolutionary purpose of eliminating unwanted and defective genes from the family line, and the gene pool in general.
Now, let's consider how animals would react. If an animal rapes its own young, as I have seen a few times, nothing is thought of it. There is no complex justice system to punish the animal. It simply is, and is simply accepted by other members of the species. Let's take for example bonobos, the animal species most closely related to humans. They commit rape, murder (for sport), incest, and bestiality on a fairly routine basis. Nothing is thought of it. They simply accept these behaviors for what they are: a part of their nature.
If only humans could stop whining and do the same. Their insipid sentimentality is disgusting.

The reason that war and genocide exist is because people commit war and genocide. I doubt there is a conscious desire to "reduce the population" that war and genocide is driven by, and even ascribing this to population reduction is a questionable assumption because it does not seem to me as if all wars are directly caused by overpopulation in a given area, but rather they seem to just be results of variations in human behavior.

In any case, why is a fight, even a futile fight, a matter of idiocy? It is not as if there is an IQ correlation that says that people who try to make the world a better place have lower scores, at least not one that you are likely referencing. Not only that, but it is not as if nature dictates laws to mankind, so why is it stupid to resist even the irresistible if one desires such effort? It is not as if satisfaction or happiness is considered holy if it is done so at the price of apathy.

Meant to?? What God gives the commands? It is not as if the blind beast of evolution is something that allows us to say that something is "meant to happen", as unless we say that evolution is perfectly deterministic on the matter of war, it seems avoidable, and I doubt that most claim that evolution is perfectly deterministic.

As for the rape issue, that depends on how you define it. One can argue that in older societies, women did have to marry their rape victims, as some interpret the Hebrew scriptures in such a manner:
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 "If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, (29) then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days.
The change from this rule was likely driven by the desire to prevent unwanted genes from entering the family line. In addition it was also likely driven by the fact that virgins are prized more due to the lack of uncertainty about the lineage of the child. However, I tend to doubt that modern society actually works by those rules even if it is descended from these past societies. The reasons being that women likely breed less than would likely be evolutionarily optimal, there is less of a premium for virginity these days, and as such I would think that the reason why rape isn't considered justified today is then probably because of the fact that it is now considered a violent crime and thus disapproved of like other violent crimes are.

Hmm.... in part I agree with your statement "If only humans could stop whining and do the same." People should reject the "goody" mentality that they have, as they are not inherently much better than the slavers, the nazis, the murderers, or any other group, they just never existed in the same contexts and to a greater extent their genes are responsible for their behavior or lack of it, than they would like to think. However, at the same time, I do not see a reason for the ethical/normative message, as there is no reason why humans should stop whining or why their sentimentality is more disgusting than a number of other behaviors. In fact, the whining of human beings likely exists to strengthen in-group relations at the cost of out-group relations as the evils are ascribed to those outside of the social group, while the goods are ascribed to those within it, and this is likely for the purpose of maintaining group cohesion. I do not see why this is uglier than war is.

" Let's take for example bonobos, the animal species most closely related to humans. They commit rape, murder (for sport), incest, and bestiality on a fairly routine basis. Nothing is thought of it. They simply accept these behaviors for what they are: a part of their nature. "

The difference between us is our bigger brain (which supposedly gives us access to higher thought patterns).
According to wiki : Chimpanzees: 275–500 cc , Humans: 1100–1700 cc and even while taking into account brain to body mass ratio, we still come in on top.

You see, what bonobos lack is the conscience of self, this in turn allows humans to think like this when a rape is committed : "that looks painful, i wouldn't want this to happen to me" and thus rules and laws are made to restrict such behavior from occurring.

You forgot the hippopotamus!

I know that orangutans do rape females, but i don't recall reading that about bonobos, chimpanzees can be forceful about it though.

The Internet doesn't make sense from a natural point of view. Get off it, and start raping women to diversify the gene pool!

EDIT: And if it wasn't obvious, I'm heavily sarcastic.

Why women ?

From a natural point of view, dogs are quite good at it too

We were talking about pleasure here, not children or puppies!

Ah I re-read the first post.

... You would have understood that I disagree with that single sentance of yours :

AG, I hope you are writing a book. Nice post as always.

While war and rape may be completely rational acts, I think humans have the ability to transcend the animal mentality.

I never heard of bonobos committing rape. From what I read they all are pretty promiscuous and the females initiate sex quite often.
Common chimps also don't rape because the alpha male is in charge. I have read of some cases of rape but it's usually male on male so the idea of expanding the gene pool doesn't hold up.

We have the ability to control population through other means besides war. I think that is pretty evident. So to say we need war just doesn't make sense. We don't need much more than food and water to live. If a group ran out of these supplies then I can see how they would rationalize war but then I still think it wouldn't be something I would personally want to do. What is the difference if I die or if someone else dies? My life is no more important than another human life.

Soldiers on a rampage who pillage, rape and plunder often turn their procreative energy on women too young or too old to reproduce, or on farm animals. And the violence they commit (and the lack of subsequent commitment) typically leaves any offspring in a worse situation - in areas ravaged by war, food production is reduced, medical care is in short supply, economic and educational opportunities are limited. All in all, you have not made a good case for anything. They could have done much better in a situation that did not involve violence.

To Yupa: Polygamy exists to diversify the gene pool. One man can impregnate dozens of women a year. One woman requires nine months plus some recovery time to produce one or two babies. (Triplets or more in multiple births are rare enough to be ignored).

Rape is not required to produce genetic diversity.

ruveyn