Any christians experience breakthroughs in their autism?
I am wondering if any christian folks(not the christians who are christian because their parents tell them so, but people who actually have strong faith in christ and the bible) have experienced "miracles" through christ?
This could be anything from forming relationships for the first time, to living independently, to living a normal lifestyle?
Non-christians need not apply. There is no need for flame-baiting and stuff.
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Since about November 23rd last year, I have had a girlfriend. Not just someone who I'm infatuated over, but she loves me back. In September I give her a ring for her right hand to make our relationship official, but in 2011 we plan to marry. For someone who has only been infatuated and never loved back, I would say this is at least unique if not of God's working in my and her life. Now that is in direct answer to your question.
As for anyone who wishes to make a flaming post or debate causality: bug off.
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I don't know if I've had anything so wildly good happen that it seemed impossible any other way, although I've had at least some good things - like my current job, come complete with a boss who knew my cousin by the same first and last name, finding a structure that works great for my strengths and weaknesses as an entry level position complete with an employer who both sees me as valuable and at the same time has no problem helping me to push more out of myself.
On the negative though, I can see far more where the sort of cage I've lived in for years - ie. the things that were very strangely roped off to me, often in the most excruciating ways, which I then realized that I wanted them more for my own validation of self but that to actually *have* them would have very easily - with my own neurological frailties - destroyed me as a person. I also just had a situation very recently, very private in nature, where my life was going almost banally predictable, ad nauseum, for about 7 or 8 years, and then things went from horizontal to sheer vertical without a second's warning, and it wasn't just one situation with one person - it was about two or three other events and people at the same time with no connection to eachother whatsoever. With or without a God there is something in the backdrop that goes a good ways farther than material reality, just that this force or flow of things seem to have a very specific, articulated, and wiley sense of humor; not something indicative of any sort of energy field, subatomic particle, or other that we have a sense of as being completely without consciousness and being a static part of the backdrop. For me though, it brings me right back to Michael Novak and his analysis on things which IMO is about the closest to dead-aim as I've seen in print to date about the nature of this sort of thing.
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Interesting topic! A relative of mine was just telling me about a man she met who was diagnosed Autistic, I believe HFA, and who claimed that Jesus had cured him! He claimed to be no longer autistic. This man had met a woman he cared about and had become very warm and empathetic toward her. He claimed that he did not know empathy before her, and that Jesus had "opened his heart". I was inclined to think that this was silly; one cannot be cured of Autism, (not that one would nessacarily want to be), and surely falling in love with this wonderful woman is what brought about his feelings of empathy or something like it. I'm sure he still displays other symptoms of Autism. However, I should reserve judgement, seeing as I never met this man and don't know anything about the situation.
Also perhaps some higher power did give him the opportunity and the ability to meet and fall in love with this woman. It is possible, why not? I would like to believe that.
Well, I can say this much.
Since getting "saved," God has worked out a way for all of my needs (and a few wants) to be met. I've been unemployed, but never for very long. I'm not doing great financially, but I'm not going without anything I need in my life.
I had a lot of emotional and spiritual wounds in my life that have healed much since then. I feel in large part that my discovering about AS this year came as an answer to the question of "WHY" for so much of my life.
I believe God can take bad things that happen and life and make something positive come from them. Had I chosen not to go to the event that produced the incident that led me to ask key questions, I would have never learned about AS and I would have have experienced the healing I've recently found in life.
I still have AS, but I'm now empowered to understand what is going on with me and how I can best adapt and compensate to have a fuller and richer quality of life. Before I was blundering in the dark...never really understanding what was wrong or what I could do about it.
Since getting "saved," God has worked out a way for all of my needs (and a few wants) to be met. I've been unemployed, but never for very long. I'm not doing great financially, but I'm not going without anything I need in my life.
I had a lot of emotional and spiritual wounds in my life that have healed much since then. I feel in large part that my discovering about AS this year came as an answer to the question of "WHY" for so much of my life.
I believe God can take bad things that happen and life and make something positive come from them. Had I chosen not to go to the event that produced the incident that led me to ask key questions, I would have never learned about AS and I would have have experienced the healing I've recently found in life.
I still have AS, but I'm now empowered to understand what is going on with me and how I can best adapt and compensate to have a fuller and richer quality of life. Before I was blundering in the dark...never really understanding what was wrong or what I could do about it.
I have been an atheist all my life and also get by reasonably well. I draw the line at enjoying toothaches and broken bones and, if it ever hits me, cancer.
Uh, guys, you might want to look up what the Bible says about covetous people asking for signs and not getting any. I have no qualms with Christians, unless they start burning AS people at the stake as "witches" again like they did in the 16th century. But faith is just that, faith. IMO if you're looking for a miracle to "prove" your faith you have the wrong kind of faith. Americans LOVE the idea that faith is tangible, and that God intervenes personally in the lives of individuals in beneficient ways. Pray to God and you shall be healed. This is how Benny Hinn got away with so much crap in the 80s, to say nothing of Mary Baker Eddy and Christian Science, a faith which has yet to be taken seriously by anybody who is not American.
I prefer the Buddhist view. The universe has laws. Violate the laws, get smacked. Whine all you want, it's not a conscious being, it doesn't care. Cause and effect rules. There is no God to heal you. There are no miracles to be had. It would be like us violating the laws of physics. It doesn't happen. I believe it because I have my own evidence, but it's nothing that you can measure with scientific instruments.
This is how Americans get to spin in circles-believe hard enough and you shall be healed, if it doesn't work, believe harder and THEN you shall be healed. This is how some Americans can pray over their dying kid until the kid dies. Confronted with a dead kid, their answer is that they weren't worthy of God. It's enough to drive you batty-people think that God will kill your baby if you look at porn. One moment's slip and God will smack you.
So you must be zealous 24-7, never erring, never flagging. Mormons operate like this, and in the end most of them feel like no matter how hard they tried, they ended up going to hell anyway. If somebody IS Filled With Spirit all the time, they eventually lose their grip on reality, and die in a mental institution. The crippled will attempt to walk to prove their faith, and fall down. Hinn had dozens of pairs of crutches and wheelchairs on display at his church for "proof". The vast majority of those people ended up worse off.
Pezar;
Just to correct a point of fact, Christian Science is currently experiencing it's greatest growth out side of the U.S..
Another point you seem very confused on is that Christian Scientists are praying (I read begging) for miricles. In reallity it is much closer to what you refer to as your Buddhist view, in that the universe has laws. Christian Scientists prefer to call the universe "God". Wanna explain dark matter to me?
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I prefer the Buddhist view. The universe has laws. Violate the laws, get smacked. Whine all you want, it's not a conscious being, it doesn't care. Cause and effect rules. There is no God to heal you. There are no miracles to be had. It would be like us violating the laws of physics. It doesn't happen. I believe it because I have my own evidence, but it's nothing that you can measure with scientific instruments.
This is how Americans get to spin in circles-believe hard enough and you shall be healed, if it doesn't work, believe harder and THEN you shall be healed. This is how some Americans can pray over their dying kid until the kid dies. Confronted with a dead kid, their answer is that they weren't worthy of God. It's enough to drive you batty-people think that God will kill your baby if you look at porn. One moment's slip and God will smack you.
So you must be zealous 24-7, never erring, never flagging. Mormons operate like this, and in the end most of them feel like no matter how hard they tried, they ended up going to hell anyway. If somebody IS Filled With Spirit all the time, they eventually lose their grip on reality, and die in a mental institution. The crippled will attempt to walk to prove their faith, and fall down. Hinn had dozens of pairs of crutches and wheelchairs on display at his church for "proof". The vast majority of those people ended up worse off.
This all depends on whether we want to talk about textbook evangelicals or if we want to talk about Aspies or NT's who've found faith through analysis rather than throwing themselves at it sheerly as an emotional need to be healed. Speaking to this also there is also a big difference between people who see miracles and signs in everything vs. people who don't believe they should see signs and then get walloped with situations that put them in a position where its logically tougher for them to defend a random probability and nonexistence of at least some currents beyond materialism (with or without a God) than 'someone was trying to tell me something'. I'd guess that could go hand in hand with your Buddhist method of thought, for me though - I think our redemption - right here and right now, if the possibility that there is no redemption after death exists - it at least exists here by us being true to ourselves and true to what we can rationally determine about our realities. By nature of experience that will differ almost by definition - that's the human condition at play. That will in fact lead some people to Christianity, some to Judaism, some to Islam, some to Hinduism, some to Buddhism, some to atheism, some to agnosticism, and many other people following along the myriad of other belief systems that exist in the world today. Its still good to debate what we have, don't get me wrong, just that basing arguments by the lowest common denominator of the faithful doesn't account for much more than pointing out that there is a wide variance in human intelligence.
This all depends on whether we want to talk about textbook evangelicals or if we want to talk about Aspies or NT's who've found faith through analysis rather than throwing themselves at it sheerly as an emotional need to be healed. Speaking to this also there is also a big difference between people who see miracles and signs in everything vs. people who don't believe they should see signs and then get walloped with situations that put them in a position where its logically tougher for them to defend a random probability and nonexistence of at least some currents beyond materialism (with or without a God) than 'someone was trying to tell me something'. I'd guess that could go hand in hand with your Buddhist method of thought, for me though - I think our redemption - right here and right now, if the possibility that there is no redemption after death exists - it at least exists here by us being true to ourselves and true to what we can rationally determine about our realities. By nature of experience that will differ almost by definition - that's the human condition at play. That will in fact lead some people to Christianity, some to Judaism, some to Islam, some to Hinduism, some to Buddhism, some to atheism, some to agnosticism, and many other people following along the myriad of other belief systems that exist in the world today. Its still good to debate what we have, don't get me wrong, just that basing arguments by the lowest common denominator of the faithful doesn't account for much more than pointing out that there is a wide variance in human intelligence.
Well said. Thank You.
What a shame.
The OP stated quite clearly in the very first post that they didn't want to start an argument between Christians and non Christians... and already we've got people talking about witch burnings!
I know that us aspies aren't always the best at picking up on linguistic and social cues, but isn't this a new comedy moment?
Imagine it in the work place. A colleague says, "I'm on a diet, so please don't talk about chocolate." All of a sudden, the entire office is sharing chocolate recipes. ![]()
I'm one of those people who came too believe through convincing.
I don't like calling it belief all that much, I prefer calling it conviction, what I consider superstition or delusion is the modern connotation of the word belief?
I came to my convictions about God, Christ and the Bible trough careful study (it was a special interest for some time) and examination of the fact.
Still, most people who consider themselves christians will not consider me christian. My convictions are not based on emotions or mysteries or miracles: It's for me more about observable facts and the original bible texts. I reject therefor all the additions made after first century CE.
I don't think there is any reason to expect a breakthrough in anyone's autism. The miracles written down in the bible had a purpose: To move God's plan along, either by helping those who where instrumental to his plan, by demonstrating that God's attention was on this or that prophet so that people know whom to listen too, or to defeat those who directly opposed God's righteous rule.
It may be my unique perspective but sometimes I think that some asperger qualities are present in God? He does not communicate with many people, he does not show himself often. When he communicated with Abraham, Moses or David he became what they needed or expected him to be, much like Aspergers often put on a persona given the situation. He notices details like every pigeon that falls to the ground. He likes order, peace, etc. He has a brilliant sense of humour. He sometimes becomes quickly irritated just because someone touches something he considers his or something closely related to him is touched. He's not into the whole popularity contest most NTs are. He is highly logical, reasonable, empathetic (without showing it readily), intelligent, etc. We are in many ways his special project. (The only thing he does not seem to lack, and I do, is the executive function
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I don't like calling it belief all that much, I prefer calling it conviction, what I consider superstition or delusion is the modern connotation of the word belief?
I came to my convictions about God, Christ and the Bible trough careful study (it was a special interest for some time) and examination of the fact.
Still, most people who consider themselves christians will not consider me christian. My convictions are not based on emotions or mysteries or miracles: It's for me more about observable facts and the original bible texts. I reject therefor all the additions made after first century CE.
I don't think there is any reason to expect a breakthrough in anyone's autism. The miracles written down in the bible had a purpose: To move God's plan along, either by helping those who where instrumental to his plan, by demonstrating that God's attention was on this or that prophet so that people know whom to listen too, or to defeat those who directly opposed God's righteous rule.
It may be my unique perspective but sometimes I think that some asperger qualities are present in God? He does not communicate with many people, he does not show himself often. When he communicated with Abraham, Moses or David he became what they needed or expected him to be, much like Aspergers often put on a persona given the situation. He notices details like every pigeon that falls to the ground. He likes order, peace, etc. He has a brilliant sense of humour. He sometimes becomes quickly irritated just because someone touches something he considers his or something closely related to him is touched. He's not into the whole popularity contest most NTs are. He is highly logical, reasonable, empathetic (without showing it readily), intelligent, etc. We are in many ways his special project. (The only thing he does not seem to lack, and I do, is the executive function
Pigeons, eh? A lot of sparrows are going to be pissed off.
I have a pet sparrow named Humphrey and when I read him the part about the pigeons he told me you were a bird brain.
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