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14 Aug 2009, 1:59 pm

I recently watched a clip of Glenn Beck talking about how this healthcare bill is Obama's way of "quenching his reparation appetite." I realize this aired 2 weeks ago, but I just saw it yesterday. He claims that since healthcare reform will disproportionately help black people (since there are more uninsured blacks than whites) that this is Obama's way of begining to instill reparations. Isn't that kind of like saying that Medicare disproportionately helps older people, or that women's sufferage disproportionately helped women? He also continues to call Obama a racist and calims he has a "hatred for white people."

Now I know Glenn Beck is clearly on drugs, but I wonder how many Americans share his sentiments. When people were screaming and crying about "wanting their America back," is this really what they are talking about? I am under no illusion that racism is "over" now simply because a black man is running the show, but I didn't know that the KKK was still so alive and well. Does anyone really believe this reverse racism idea?



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14 Aug 2009, 2:30 pm

Reverse racism does clearly exist in the form of preferential treatment in a number of circumstances, but to claim that Obama is anti-white is just paranoid nonsense. His mother was white, for crying out loud. People like Beck can safely be ignored.

I don't think the racist crowd is as big as they appear. They're just loud. I grew up in the Midwest and most people at my high school seemed to favor Obama in the last election.


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14 Aug 2009, 3:08 pm

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I recently watched a clip of Glenn Beck talking about how this healthcare bill is Obama's way of "quenching his reparation appetite." I realize this aired 2 weeks ago, but I just saw it yesterday. He claims that since healthcare reform will disproportionately help black people (since there are more uninsured blacks than whites) that this is Obama's way of begining to instill reparations. Isn't that kind of like saying that Medicare disproportionately helps older people, or that women's sufferage disproportionately helped women?



Yes! That is exactly what it's like! It's sad to see that this kind of racism is still present in media discourse!


To answer your question though. I do think reverse racism exists. Certainly one can be resisting or prejudiced against any group of people. Including white people. But to assume that all blacks have a 'chip on their shoulder" and are out to get vengeance on whites for atrocities they committed in the past (undoubtedly some do....there are plenty of both black and white people who are prejudiced against each other for all sorts of reasons) is incredibly racist. Beck obviously made this broad generalization because why else would he jump to the conclusion that Obama was engaged in reverse racism simply because he wants to reform healthcare! RIDICULOUS!



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14 Aug 2009, 6:13 pm

I don't think it's so much about racism as it is about creating commuism.


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14 Aug 2009, 6:33 pm

Glenn Beck owes Alex Jones millions for ripping off Alex's paranoid white Christian rallying against socialism act.


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14 Aug 2009, 7:30 pm

The real danger in health care is not this race or that. It is the government burocrat, who no matter how well intentioned will carry out ruinous policies in the long run. What ever government touches, runs or regulates will turn brown, sticky and smelly sooner or later. Government is the problem, not the the solution.

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14 Aug 2009, 7:49 pm

There are educated and sincere objections to health care reform, even though I don't agree with them. These objections contribute to the debate, while calling Obama a racist does not. I was inquiring about whether or not people are just downright mad about the fact that we have a black president. I didn't think that there were that many people looking to stop him at all costs, but I have since reevaluated my position. I have heard many racist comments coming from whites about Obama and other minorities "taking over" positions of power, even in my own neighborhood. It seems a lot of racist folks are coming out of the woodworks and ignorant media personalities are just fueling the fire. While I believe reverse racism exists, I've never personally encountered it, and I'm certain Obama has nothing to do with it.



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14 Aug 2009, 10:22 pm

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I was inquiring about whether or not people are just downright mad about the fact that we have a black president.

Some people are, others are just mad that we elected a Democrat in one of the most brutal electoral landslides we've seen in years. Some of the racist rhetoric may just be that people tend to make any criticism possible of someone they dislike. A friend of mine (who is not normally a homophobe) began making derogatory comments about his gay roommate. This wasn't because he was a gay-basher, but just because his roomie was obnoxious and so he insulted the roommate with anything that came to mind.

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While I believe reverse racism exists, I've never personally encountered it,

I have. It's called "affirmative action."


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15 Aug 2009, 8:44 am

Obama and his kind are socialists. Socialists often appease the masses by promising and delivering pork that will keep them popular until socialist power is unstoppable.

In areas of the nation with low black populations, Obama is pitching to the poor whites, Latinos, etc.

I will honestly say that Obama was elected mostly because of support by black people. We saw this happen in Florida with a Latino woman who played the race card. Latinos showed up to vote for her in record numbers. Next election, she was out. She was incompetent in office and she couldn't work up her own people enough to vote for her a second time. Had the prior election been run on ability, she would never have won.

Obama had how many superstars stumping for him? His image got him the job, not his ability.



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15 Aug 2009, 10:51 am

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Obama and his kind are socialists. Socialists often appease the masses by promising and delivering pork that will keep them popular until socialist power is unstoppable.

In areas of the nation with low black populations, Obama is pitching to the poor whites, Latinos, etc.

I will honestly say that Obama was elected mostly because of support by black people. We saw this happen in Florida with a Latino woman who played the race card. Latinos showed up to vote for her in record numbers. Next election, she was out. She was incompetent in office and she couldn't work up her own people enough to vote for her a second time. Had the prior election been run on ability, she would never have won.

Obama had how many superstars stumping for him? His image got him the job, not his ability.


You overlook his opposition. John McCaine and Sarah of the the Frozen North. His opposition was a study in absurdity. Prince Obama could not have lost, even if he wanted to.

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15 Aug 2009, 11:25 am

ruveyn wrote:
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Obama and his kind are socialists. Socialists often appease the masses by promising and delivering pork that will keep them popular until socialist power is unstoppable.

In areas of the nation with low black populations, Obama is pitching to the poor whites, Latinos, etc.

I will honestly say that Obama was elected mostly because of support by black people. We saw this happen in Florida with a Latino woman who played the race card. Latinos showed up to vote for her in record numbers. Next election, she was out. She was incompetent in office and she couldn't work up her own people enough to vote for her a second time. Had the prior election been run on ability, she would never have won.

Obama had how many superstars stumping for him? His image got him the job, not his ability.


You overlook his opposition. John McCaine and Sarah of the the Frozen North. His opposition was a study in absurdity. Prince Obama could not have lost, even if he wanted to.

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Well, after the Republicans thoroughly wrecked the country they were happy to offload it onto anyone.



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15 Aug 2009, 12:13 pm

Oh Lord, here we go. Obama is NOT a socialist. The canditate for the socialist party continues to take offense to this outlandish claim. And affirmative action is NOT reverse racism. It is simply a way to ensure that minorities are given a fair shot in the workforce because without it, they are often discriminated against. I used to think that affimative action was unfair because merit should always be the deciding factor. That was back when I was in high school. I didn't have a lot of ties with the black community and led a fairly sheltered life with respect to racial inequalities. I have since grown up and learned merit is often not the deciding factor and just because MLK had a dream, that doesn't mean it came true. There is a lot of racism out there even though it is not PC to admit it. The only way to ensure that minorities are not discriminated against is to utilize affimative action. I do think, in a few rare instances, it has gone overboard to the point of possible reverse racism, but as a whole, I believe it has made our country stronger and our people more tolerant. We've come a long way, but we ain't there yet.



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15 Aug 2009, 3:08 pm

This thread is highly amusing. Just an observation. Carry on.


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15 Aug 2009, 3:50 pm

Obama’s mother might have been white, but Obama married a black woman and Obama himself self-identifies as black, and as such he looks out for black political interests.

People like Glenn Beck are what I call right-wing liberals. They speak out against the ethnocentrism of non-whites because it offends their egalitarianism.

“Left-wing liberals” are the sort of people who, when confronted with the ethnocentrism of non-whites, either refuse to recognize it or blame whites for it.

None of these people will admit that putting the interests of one’s own ethnic or racial group first is normal, natural behaviour, and that since non-whites constantly do it, whites should do the same.

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While I believe reverse racism exists, I've never personally encountered it, and I'm certain Obama has nothing to do with it.


The fact that you use a phrase like “reverse racism” shows how little you understand. It shows that you have uncritically accepted the propaganda that says that this thing called “racism” is the original sin of white people.
I wonder how people who actually believe this stuff manage to explain away racial conflicts in places like Rwanda or Sri Lanka where white people are not involved.
And I wonder how anti-white a non-white has to be before they’ll drop the word “reverse”. Does the clip below make the grade for example?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN5StQAr7n0[/youtube]



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15 Aug 2009, 7:13 pm

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Well, after the Republicans thoroughly wrecked the country they were happy to offload it onto anyone.


The Republicans did a pretty thorough job of discrediting themselves. There is no way they could have won in 2008. Unfortunately the Democrat party had moved rather far to the Left so we were bound to get whatever ran.

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15 Aug 2009, 8:16 pm

Black supremacy lol