Are Nt's going to have worse social skills in the future?

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Does the info age corrupt nt's social skills?
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Perhaps 33%  33%  [ 5 ]
no 33%  33%  [ 5 ]
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30 Aug 2009, 9:23 pm

In these times, I can safely say that most nt's have devolved into literal cyborgs. No longer do they talk to each other face to face, now they all text each other or communicate via internet. Since they are losing their ability to live without technology, in a way they are cyborgs. We aspies communicate via machines because we don't always necessarily like direct social interactions like nt's do. We feel safer communicating to our computers rather than face to face with people. Maybe, in the near-future, they'll have more social issues than us. I took these ideas of symbolic cyborgs and began writing a short story about the near-future where most humans are no longer organic. They have replaced their bodies with robotic prosthetics to better themselves, but in truth they are worse. They can't feel, reproduce, and their emotions have diminished. Even worse, they persecute organic humans and go so far as to begin ethnic cleansing. In the book, the mechanics coexist with organics until a mechanic leader who is based of pol pot and hitler influences them to kill. The mechanics start to become nothing more than indoctrinated husks of what we are today. Some mechanics fight back against the new regime by helping humans escape the cleansing.



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30 Aug 2009, 9:31 pm

ShenLong, you're bordering on making rather unpleasant and insulting generalizations about a group of people - that sort of behavior is against site policy. Please keep this in mind in your future posts.

If you're interested, the book 'Antibodies' is an interesting take on the desire some people have to transcend their physical bodies with synthetic replacement/enhancement.


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30 Aug 2009, 9:42 pm

No, I don't mean everybody. It's just the majority of youth. I don't like antagonizing people or slapping titles on anybody. That's not what I'm about. An example would be that to say all people who were in Hitlers army or who lived in Nazi Germany were Jew-haters which is a lie. Many were too afraid of the gestapo or the government in general and couldn't do anything. It really isn't what I meant. BTW, most of my friends and family are neurotypical. I have no anger against them.



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30 Aug 2009, 9:42 pm

makuranososhi wrote:
ShenLong, you're bordering on making rather unpleasant and insulting generalizations about a group of people - that sort of behavior is against site policy. Please keep this in mind in your future posts.

If you're interested, the book 'Antibodies' is an interesting take on the desire some people have to transcend their physical bodies with synthetic replacement/enhancement.


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In general, aspies at this site at least, declare themselves more capable than the general public. I take it it's because they feel excluded from general social contexts. It's an automatic habit of all sequestered groups, religious, political, racial, ethnic, etc. to declare themselves somehow superior to compensate for their sense of being left out. It should be recognized and combated but not by punishment.



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30 Aug 2009, 9:46 pm

I don't feel excluded. I also don't feel better than anyone. No one is better than anyone but people like criminals and such are worse. I don't feel that nt's are worse either. And I do realize that some of us(aspies) do prefer to talk face to face. BTW, I messed up the poll by accident so don't even bother.



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30 Aug 2009, 9:49 pm

I can definitely agree with the notion that electronic communication, texting, videogaming, hours a day spent on the internet is eroding enough NT's social skills to where they're heading toward being de facto aspies. Then again - I don't know if it'll ever quite be break-even, though admittedly the line between AS and NT could indeed narrow significantly (then again its hard to tell whether that's great for us or a tragedy for them, perhaps a bit of both).



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30 Aug 2009, 9:49 pm

Sand wrote:
makuranososhi wrote:
ShenLong, you're bordering on making rather unpleasant and insulting generalizations about a group of people - that sort of behavior is against site policy. Please keep this in mind in your future posts.

If you're interested, the book 'Antibodies' is an interesting take on the desire some people have to transcend their physical bodies with synthetic replacement/enhancement.


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In general, aspies at this site at least, declare themselves more capable than the general public. I take it it's because they feel excluded from general social contexts. It's an automatic habit of all sequestered groups, religious, political, racial, ethnic, etc. to declare themselves somehow superior to compensate for their sense of being left out. It should be recognized and combated but not by punishment.


No punishment meted, Sand - just a reminder, and done publicly so that others might remember as well. One can express without throwing entire groups under the wheels of assumption and presumption.


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30 Aug 2009, 9:56 pm

Quick question, why am I always attacked for expressing my ideas rather than the people who make fun of theism. I too am athiest but those discussions are way more contreversial than what I say and offends more people .



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30 Aug 2009, 10:02 pm

ShenLong wrote:
Quick question, why am I always attacked for expressing my ideas rather than the people who make fun of theism. I too am athiest but those discussions are way more contreversial than what I say and offends more people .


Making fun of an idea (eg. theism) is ok, but making fun of people who hold those beliefs isn't. That's the general rule, anyway.


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30 Aug 2009, 10:04 pm

I like your topic. I see all the time, people saying our society is becoming more and more social. I do not see how this is possible. If anything our socieity is becoming more disconnected. Technology connects us and makes the world smaller, giving the illusion of heightened social connection; but this connection is distanced and this distance promotes apathy. I see it in others; I see it in myself. I think it is a condition which applies to all modern civilizaions.



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30 Aug 2009, 10:05 pm

ShenLong wrote:
Quick question, why am I always attacked for expressing my ideas rather than the people who make fun of theism. I too am athiest but those discussions are way more contreversial than what I say and offends more people .


Attacking religion is attacking an idea. NTs are people with, admittedly, an idea set but one which probably is genetic.



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30 Aug 2009, 10:08 pm

Technically I'm pointing something out, something that i've observed. Making fun of religion is usually much more offensive in my experience. As long as you don't mke fun theists or theistic in front of them or where they can hear you, it isn't accetable. Thats why many theists do not like atheists and such. Lets get back on topic.



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30 Aug 2009, 10:55 pm

Have to agree with claire333. When newspaper ads for garbage men list 'team skills' as a requirement, you know the world is focusing on social skills. In fact, I cannot find many jobs that dont list that.

That being said, I think that social skills are eroding. Its just that there is an increasingly high bar associated with the remaining ones.


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31 Aug 2009, 5:34 am

ShenLong wrote:
In these times, I can safely say that most nt's have devolved into literal cyborgs. No longer do they talk to each other face to face, now they all text each other or communicate via internet. Since they are losing their ability to live without technology, in a way they are cyborgs. We aspies communicate via machines because we don't always necessarily like direct social interactions like nt's do. We feel safer communicating to our computers rather than face to face with people. Maybe, in the near-future, they'll have more social issues than us.




Firstly I really dislike the 'US and them Mentality' and was about to write your post off as another 'aspie elitist' BS piece, which to some extent it is. I too share your concerns that the majority of the youth population do seem (subjectively at least) to be interacting in a far less personal manner. However unlike you I do not rejoice at the possibility of a more level social playing field, at the expense of the majority losing their social skills, the consequences of this could well be disastrous.

Of course with your theory you are wilfully ignoring the fact that ASD's still screw up online. How many of us have either needed to explain or have explained to us that someone was pulling our leg, was being satirical, sarcastic, symbolic etc all things that those without an ASD will understand with far more ease than ourselves


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31 Aug 2009, 6:19 am

ShenLong wrote:
In these times, I can safely say that most nt's have devolved into literal cyborgs. No longer do they talk to each other face to face, now they all text each other or communicate via internet. Since they are losing their ability to live without technology, in a way they are cyborgs. We aspies communicate via machines because we don't always necessarily like direct social interactions like nt's do. We feel safer communicating to our computers rather than face to face with people. Maybe, in the near-future, they'll have more social issues than us. I took these ideas of symbolic cyborgs and began writing a short story about the near-future where most humans are no longer organic. They have replaced their bodies with robotic prosthetics to better themselves, but in truth they are worse. They can't feel, reproduce, and their emotions have diminished. Even worse, they persecute organic humans and go so far as to begin ethnic cleansing. In the book, the mechanics coexist with organics until a mechanic leader who is based of pol pot and hitler influences them to kill. The mechanics start to become nothing more than indoctrinated husks of what we are today. Some mechanics fight back against the new regime by helping humans escape the cleansing.


Fear not! The Butlerian Jihad will take care of this problem. (See -Dune-, by Frank Herbert).

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31 Aug 2009, 7:35 am

I'm not an aspie elite. Also, I don't think that it's a good thing for nt's to lose their social skills.