Persecution of Jews by followers of Hitler during the Second

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02 Oct 2009, 9:38 am

What do you know about persecution of Jews by followers of Hitler during the Second World War?



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02 Oct 2009, 9:41 am

A lot of it came from the myth that Jews control the wealth of the world and were hording it, preventing the recovery of the German state after World War II. Hitler used a Nationalist Socialist platform as a starting point to try and "reclaim" this wealth. The Jews were also marked as universally Communist and as traitors to the state of Germany and not to be trusted.

All stupid generalizations based on a false illusion of race with the most horrific of consequences.


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02 Oct 2009, 9:39 pm

It goes a little deeper than that.

Anti-semitism was already commonly used as a political platform during the late 19th and early 20th century, playing on the already entrenched anti-semitism found in many european countries. It was not uncommon for politicians to distribute material essentially stating that the countries woes can be attribted to the Jew, and that they will stand for the common man and get rid of this menace. This is where the oft quoted "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" came from, where the myth of jewish desire for world domination was spread, but which has long been discredited as being the product of Russian politicals.

Post WW1 the germans were feeling betrayed by their government, and shafted by the rest of the world after a war they did not believe that they had lost. the needed a scapegoat. Hitler played that political game extremely well, using anti-semitism and nationalism to gather and energise a nation. rom there it snowballed into the "Final Solution"



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02 Oct 2009, 10:11 pm

first link when asknig the question in google:

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/ ... e_Jews.htm


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03 Oct 2009, 4:51 am

Interesting link.

I recall someone very wise and well read tell me once:

"For those who believe they are the one, they will be despised by the many"

The universe acts to bring humility to those who think too highly, and to bring unity to the many. I am sure this is a law that has persisted throughout history and the world.



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03 Oct 2009, 8:29 am

Most religions in general do that....claim they are the "chosen people" by something divine.

Is it any wonder since the Torah, Quran and bible obsess over who begot who in their magical genealogy?

Theres always been this human obsession with keeping a "race" pure or that one people is better than another people because a book told them so...sort of like The Third Reich. I don't think the holocaust was any different than any other catastrophic events of wiping out a people. Look at the people of Sudan right now....and yet no one ever talks about it.

I think holocaust was one of the most well known genocides in history simply for the fact that it took place in a western country and at time when there were cameras. Most of this stuff is still going on today but not so much in the west these days.


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03 Oct 2009, 9:24 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
I think holocaust was one of the most well known genocides in history simply for the fact that it took place in a western country and at time when there were cameras. Most of this stuff is still going on today but not so much in the west these days.


Well, it ws either a well kept secret or there was a blind eye turned (certainly by many german residents) since none of the allies realised what was happening until at least 1942. Noone could believe it, despite intelligence saying otherwise.

The Holocause was something else, it was a mechanised, systematic, organised genocide on a scale that most just can't wrap their heads around. Nothing before or since has come close. Just think 1.1 million killed in Sobibor alone!



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04 Oct 2009, 4:38 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r5iLhreGEg[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BIAYYwVuYM&feature=fvw[/youtube]

History repeats itself...

The world needs good minded people like Hassan.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDd-RyDmvZo[/youtube]



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04 Oct 2009, 8:04 am

Jaythefordman wrote:
The Holocause was something else, it was a mechanised, systematic, organised genocide on a scale that most just can't wrap their heads around. Nothing before or since has come close. Just think 1.1 million killed in Sobibor alone!

Patently nonsense. I won't cover before because clearly you will need to study history 101 first. It is so ridiculous to say that. Stalin is responsible for more deaths even by conservative figures. Mao's famine killed many more people. In fact famine is by far the most effective way you can cause mass genocide, especially in combination of other methods.

Don't get me wrong the Holocaust was really terrible thing. But it doesn't surprise me the victimology and showboating that can surround it can cause some resentment. It is almost as if it is some sort of bizarre competition. Like my genocide is better than yours sort of thing. What a crock.



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04 Oct 2009, 10:15 am

0_equals_true wrote:
Jaythefordman wrote:
The Holocause was something else, it was a mechanised, systematic, organised genocide on a scale that most just can't wrap their heads around. Nothing before or since has come close. Just think 1.1 million killed in Sobibor alone!

Patently nonsense. I won't cover before because clearly you will need to study history 101 first. It is so ridiculous to say that. Stalin is responsible for more deaths even by conservative figures. Mao's famine killed many more people. In fact famine is by far the most effective way you can cause mass genocide, especially in combination of other methods.

Don't get me wrong the Holocaust was really terrible thing. But it doesn't surprise me the victimology and showboating that can surround it can cause some resentment. It is almost as if it is some sort of bizarre competition. Like my genocide is better than yours sort of thing. What a crock.


As many as sixty million chinese may have been killed bringing about the People's Republic of China.

On a percentage basis Pol Pot did a more thorough job than Hitler.

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04 Oct 2009, 9:35 pm

I stand corrected. Brain fade had me neglecting Stalin and Pol Pot, my bad.