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11 Jan 2010, 11:08 am

The "Oh Dear" thread has proved impossible for me to comment on so I will continue here.



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11 Jan 2010, 11:23 am

Strange. I cannot post to this thread either.



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11 Jan 2010, 11:30 am

This is a test post. Apparently posting is sensitive to certain standard terminology. I am trying to discover which ones.
Aah! The term seems to be human d ildos. (pardon the spacing)

This is the comment..

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Well, right, but sand, the problem is that to make a human machine is likely quite expensive, especially since it has to be programmed incredibly well(and have a variety in programming otherwise it would be given away by certain mannerisms) and the body size, shape, and look can't be mass produced(otherwise you could tell by the way the thing looks).

As it stands, I think military use will take quite some time as these tools will both have to be made possible and feasible in order to be made usable.


On an experimental development program I would agree with you but pornography is a major economic field and realistic human d ildos require quite a lot of sophisticated mechanisms. But once the primary problems are solved mass production for a mass market brings down costs radically. In a sense, they are also good birth control devices and that could be useful to population control.
An interesting development may arise when these dolls become so sexually interesting that live women would have to struggle to compete and women may find it necessary to copy these toys to attract men.



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11 Jan 2010, 3:22 pm

Hopefully your technical problems are over, Sand. Shall I merge the last post into the original thread and delete the rest of this?

And that last sentence .... never going to happen ;)


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11 Jan 2010, 4:45 pm

Actually DW, I think it is completely possible to happen. If you design these things well enough, and if men find real female personalities annoying enough, it could very well be that we generally replace real women with fake women. (Possibly with women doing the same thing)

In all likelihood though, not all people will be served well by these models and thus real people will still date and mate, but likely this would be unconventional people and traditionalists.



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11 Jan 2010, 5:18 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
And that last sentence .... never going to happen ;)

I'm with AG on this one Wait twenty years and see where the technology gets. Consider the following potential advantages sex bots would have:
They can be made to order to fulfill any superficial preferences as to appearance
They don't age
They can be turned off when you're done with them
A computer program would never "not be in the mood"
They don't nag
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11 Jan 2010, 6:04 pm

I'm jealous. Hell yeah I'd like to be like a robot, that is why I'm on meds now. I wish I could be happy and okay with life as it is. All this uncertainty is a drag! All this desire is a pain in the arse! :lol:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cRrbcv_qKA[/youtube]


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11 Jan 2010, 6:08 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC1NR7AL_9s[/youtube]


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11 Jan 2010, 6:37 pm

Ok, lol, well I wouldn't go for it. You can't make a journey of personal growth with a robot, and a good marriage is a journey of personal growth. Ups, downs, unpredictability, irritants, amazing moments and all. When you look at how many people search for a true relationship, you realize that most people don't want a robot.

And now that more people have posted ... merge or not merge? I haven't even peaked at the "oh Dear" thread.


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11 Jan 2010, 7:04 pm

I wouldn't want a robot for a husband, but I wish I could be a hot robotic lady. If I were a guy, I'd prefer a robot woman. As a woman, I have no need for a robot man. He would just bother me. Isn't that funny?


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11 Jan 2010, 7:10 pm

Magnus wrote:
I'm jealous. Hell yeah I'd like to be like a robot, that is why I'm on meds now.

well, complains about such a thing should be expected as with anything else I believe, but yeah, I see that few people, such as traditionalists and perhaps other activists could complain about the replacement of women and endengaring traditional family values and perhaps even the economy if that leads to less reproduction, as some may possibly argue that , but as AG said, not all people would use such service, so I wouldn't see it so much of a problem as to consider it a dangerous replacement for real women (or real men).

With the jealosy thing, well, probably a few women would try to compete with robots, but I don't think that many and to be that of an issue. I believe the market for it would be aimed to women as well, although expected to be less of a number than the service for men, and I don't think much about women trying to imitate the fake women to be liked but rather looking for their own men wether they are real or fake according to their own expectations.

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Ok, lol, well I wouldn't go for it. You can't make a journey of personal growth with a robot, and a good marriage is a journey of personal growth. Ups, downs, unpredictability, irritants, amazing moments and all. When you look at how many people search for a true relationship, you realize that most people don't want a robot.

The issue is that not everyone has the same idealization about relationships and probably some of them don't either care or believe in marriage and everything related to it, I believe personal experiences as well as other issues would make some to feel a robot to be a better alternative, for whatever reason. But time should tell how realistic these robots can get to the point of confusing one for the real thing, which would make the issue more interesting.


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11 Jan 2010, 7:16 pm

This is old news. The robotic women have already won. Still, I'm pissed though. Normal=expected outcome of desired traits...Ideally they would never change. Damn, I wish that could do it for me. I wish I could dehumanize men like that. Life would be much more simple. Simple minds, simple pleasures.


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11 Jan 2010, 7:27 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
And now that more people have posted ... merge or not merge? I haven't even peaked at the "oh Dear" thread.

Probably not- "Oh Dear" has sidetracked into a discussion of potential military applications and this one is still on the sex aspect.


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11 Jan 2010, 8:09 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
Hopefully your technical problems are over, Sand. Shall I merge the last post into the original thread and delete the rest of this?

And that last sentence .... never going to happen ;)


Do what you think best. I'm sorry to be such a nuisance but I thought my comments worth the effort.



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11 Jan 2010, 8:17 pm

One other point about robotic sex partners. It may break the connection on just sex and a real relationship between people so that relieving sex pressures could result in more mature interpersonal relationships. Also the recent computer developments with thought control of computers could have a radical effect on a robot tuned to the emotional impulses of a human so that the slightest desires could be satisfied in a mating session, something a real human might not be sensitive enough to comply with.

One other legal point. No doubt, at least at the beginning, these things will be quite expensive. Quite likely they will be rented rather than bought and I wonder what effect that would have on prostitution. You cannot emotionally abuse a robot although violence in sex would be rather expensive and someone who damages a precious machine could be legally sued to pay for replacement and repair.

And beyond that, inventive imagination into what might be termed odd s ex with robots designed for all tastes and strange emotional explorations would, perhaps, do strange things to activities of sexual explorations with real partners.