Why does my praying offend people?
I'm not religious, but it seems whenever I mention that I ask God for some kind of guidance, or help doing the right thing, people take that like I asked God to drop a million dollars on my head. I just feel lost sometimes, and realize some things might be hopeless, and I realize that I'm not all-knowing, so it comforts me to reach for a higher power. But if you ever admit to it, people straight up insult you for it. People are so ignorant and egocentric.
It's not like my prayer condemns them for their lack of faith. Maybe anything that slightly reminds them of religion sends them on a tirade? Or they're so stupid they can't distinguish between religious and spiritual.
It's not like my prayer condemns them for their lack of faith. Maybe anything that slightly reminds them of religion sends them on a tirade? Or they're so stupid they can't distinguish between religious and spiritual.
Maybe it's just jealousy. Everybody would like to be well connected with someone of supreme influence.
It's not like my prayer condemns them for their lack of faith. Maybe anything that slightly reminds them of religion sends them on a tirade? Or they're so stupid they can't distinguish between religious and spiritual.
Maybe it's just jealousy. Everybody would like to be well connected with someone of supreme influence.
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Different things offend different types of people. In a group of evolutionists, try mentioning something related to the Intelligent Design movement. In a group of creationists, start throwing out random insults and make attempts at character assassination. In a group of communists, start declaring the benefits of capitalism. In a group of capitalists, start insulting Wal-Mart because Wal-Mart deserves it. What offends people most are things which they do not believe, especially if such beliefs which they are opposed to would limit them in some way, like the belief that a red traffic light means "stop".
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It's not like my prayer condemns them for their lack of faith.
Actually, their reactions tend to indicate they know you are right!
Mention Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny and nobody goes ballistic.
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Would "ancient" be pejorative here, so as to attempt derogation? No one here is performing animal sacrifice, but why would it matter if it were done in the desert as compared to anywhere else? In relation to the opening post, you do give a good insight into the minds of the people referred to therein.
It's not like my prayer condemns them for their lack of faith. Maybe anything that slightly reminds them of religion sends them on a tirade? Or they're so stupid they can't distinguish between religious and spiritual.
Probably because they think it's ridiculous and don't want to hear it. Religion tends to anger people for some reason or other. I don't like religion much even though I try to avoid openly attacking it and I would rather not see prayers tossed at people as if everybody believes in the base religion, it's made me uncomfortable before, people saying "God bless you" or "I'll pray for you" to me, I've no idea what to say in response.
No, prayers tend to make some people (including me) uncomfortable.
But... if you're not religious, why are you asking god for guidance?
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Your words bring a good point to light here: People should leave their religions out of the words they use during personal interactions. For example ...
The expression "God bless you" is useless and even wrong to speak unless the person saying it is actually putting action behind it -- an actual blessing (such as food or cash or whatever) is actually happening -- at the same time. Then if the person on the receiving end does not want anything from "God", he or she can just drop the sack and walk away. But when mere words are flippantly tossed about, the intended recepient has actually been cursed.
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Would "ancient" be pejorative here, so as to attempt derogation? No one here is performing animal sacrifice, but why would it matter if it were done in the desert as compared to anywhere else? In relation to the opening post, you do give a good insight into the minds of the people referred to therein.
Nah, it is an ancient desert ritual and they're the ones that creep me out. For example, I'm not creeped out by Romany cleaning rituals. I find Ancient Egyptian mummification creepy too.
And it is linked to animal sacrifice because it is strongly linked to christianity which is founded on animal sacrifice... and deserts XD lots of ancient deserts.
Modern satanic prayer, for example, doesn't creep me out because there's no ritual, witchcraft, evocation etc. like with other prayer.
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It's not like my prayer condemns them for their lack of faith. Maybe anything that slightly reminds them of religion sends them on a tirade? Or they're so stupid they can't distinguish between religious and spiritual.
Stop praying in public and it will no long offend people. Follow the Gospel; pray to your Father in Heaven in a closet.
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I'm not religious, but it seems whenever I mention that I ask God for some kind of guidance, or help doing the right thing, people take that like I asked God to drop a million dollars on my head.
You basically may as well have done so. Asking for something for nothing for no good reason is just begging and can be seen as very greedy if you have what you need to survive.
I just feel lost sometimes, and realize some things might be hopeless, and I realize that I'm not all-knowing, so it comforts me to reach for a higher power.
Which is effectively yourself, unless you can send psychic beams into the nether realm.
But if you ever admit to it, people straight up insult you for it. People are so ignorant and egocentric.
Isn't it pretty egocentric to assume that if there is a perfect being in the universe they'd help you in any way over, say, the Haiti earthquake victims?
It's not like my prayer condemns them for their lack of faith.
Yes it does, see above. It is indirectly saying you are worth more than anyone else and are so special that a god would consider helping you because of what you think rather than help anyone else.
Maybe anything that slightly reminds them of religion sends them on a tirade? Or they're so stupid they can't distinguish between religious and spiritual.
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–adjective
1. of, pertaining to, or consisting of spirit; incorporeal.
2. of or pertaining to the spirit or soul, as distinguished from the physical nature: a spiritual approach to life.
3. closely akin in interests, attitude, outlook, etc.: the professor's spiritual heir in linguistics.
4. of or pertaining to spirits or to spiritualists; supernatural or spiritualistic.
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6. of or pertaining to the spirit as the seat of the moral or religious nature.
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8. of or belonging to the church; ecclesiastical: lords spiritual and temporal.
9. of or relating to the mind or intellect.
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1. a devout petition to God or an object of worship.
2. a spiritual communion with God or an object of worship, as in supplication, thanksgiving, adoration, or confession.
3. the act or practice of praying to God or an object of worship.
4. a formula or sequence of words used in or appointed for praying: the Lord's Prayer.
5. prayers, a religious observance, either public or private, consisting wholly or mainly of prayer.
6. that which is prayed for.
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1. of, pertaining to, or concerned with religion: a religious holiday.
2. imbued with or exhibiting religion; pious; devout; godly: a religious man.
3. scrupulously faithful; conscientious: religious care.
4. pertaining to or connected with a monastic or religious order.
5. appropriate to religion or to sacred rites or observances.
Spirituality is religious.
Prayer is religious.
"Give me special privileges because I can cast this magic spell with this hand gesture because I'm special."
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1. having or regarding the self or the individual as the center of all things: an egocentric philosophy that ignores social causes.
2. having little or no regard for interests, beliefs, or attitudes other than one's own; self-centered: an egocentric person; egocentric demands upon the time and patience of others.
A prayer for yourself is probably the most ultimate selfishness conceivable in any way. Demanding the time and ability of the ultimate being through evocation.
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Pray tell topic
I am actually embarassed when I see people pray in a public place. I only worry when their behaviour becomes strange, then I become suspect. ![]()
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