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28 Mar 2011, 6:46 pm

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/52023.html

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"I have two grandchildren — Maggie is 11, Robert is 9," Gingrich said at Cornerstone Church here. "I am convinced that if we do not decisively win the struggle over the nature of America, by the time they're my age they will be in a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists and with no understanding of what it once meant to be an American."

o_O

Let us panic now.

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28 Mar 2011, 6:53 pm

I can't wait to see how that works! And she needn't worry--I doubt America will ever come to its senses enough to be truly secular.

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28 Mar 2011, 7:37 pm

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now that is just plain silly!
aaannd CUT!!
:lol:

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28 Mar 2011, 7:52 pm

Let's pick apart right-wing logic.

First some definitions:

Atheism: Lack of belief in the Christian god: the three-in-one trinitarian god of Father in Heaven, the son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. This follows from the premises that there is only one true god and the Christian god is he. Since atheists do not believe in gods, it's self-evident that atheism applies to all non-Christians.
Secularism: The promotion of a government and public sphere separate from religious/spiritual life. Since this does not explicitly promote Christianity, it is atheist by default. Freedom of religion refers to the right to pick and choose among denominations of Christianity only rather than to a godless, secular state. To assure right-wingers that you are not promoting atheism, absolutely all communications must be prefaced by "by the grace of God" (e.g., "By the grace of God, this lunch-special menu published anno domini MMXI."); this is required even of preachers lest we fear they have converted to some paganism in the morrow. Anything less than restoring the Christian church to its historic role in the state is promoting atheistic secularism at the expense of religious freedom.

From this, it follows that Islam is a cult, not a religion, whose members are atheist since they do not worship the Christian god. Any agenda that promotes secularism also promotes radical Islam due to their shared atheistic goals.

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28 Mar 2011, 8:37 pm

Newt Gingrich is just stupid. Like on an epic level.

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28 Mar 2011, 8:40 pm

Wait, what? How can you have a secular atheist state dominated by radical Islam? It wouldn't be a secular atheist state then.

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28 Mar 2011, 8:55 pm

NeantHumain wrote:

Let's pick apart right-wing logic.

First some definitions:

Atheism: Lack of belief in the Christian god: the three-in-one trinitarian god of Father in Heaven, the son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. This follows from the premises that there is only one true god and the Christian god is he. Since atheists do not believe in gods, it's self-evident that atheism applies to all non-Christians.
Secularism: The promotion of a government and public sphere separate from religious/spiritual life. Since this does not explicitly promote Christianity, it is atheist by default. Freedom of religion refers to the right to pick and choose among denominations of Christianity only rather than to a godless, secular state. To assure right-wingers that you are not promoting atheism, absolutely all communications must be prefaced by "by the grace of God" (e.g., "By the grace of God, this lunch-special menu published anno domini MMXI."); this is required even of preachers lest we fear they have converted to some paganism in the morrow. Anything less than restoring the Christian church to its historic role in the state is promoting atheistic secularism at the expense of religious freedom.

Even though I see you're being ironic, that may well be the thought process behind that comment. GAH! I am so glad I don't live in the USA. In Canada even our right-wing people tend to be closer to the Democrats than the Republicans!

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28 Mar 2011, 10:24 pm

AstroGeek wrote:

GAH! I am so glad I don't live in the USA. In Canada even our right-wing people tend to be closer to the Democrats than the Republicans!

Amen brother

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28 Mar 2011, 10:40 pm

Oh, how we envy you.

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29 Mar 2011, 12:35 am

Rhetorical Question: Why do I get the feeling that this is a misquote...

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29 Mar 2011, 6:47 am

Jacoby wrote:

Newt Gingrich is just stupid. Like on an epic level.

Actually, Gingritch is extremely well educated and quite intelligent. Unfortunately he is very wrong minded on several issues. Do not confuse being disagreeable with stupidity.

How man PhD's in History do you have?

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29 Mar 2011, 9:58 am

Attention hysterical people: Please get your story straight!

Europe is destined for sharia law, because all their wetbacks come from the muslim countries of North Africa and the Middle East.
The USA is destined for, not Sharia Law, but for a return to the Spanish Inquisiton. This is because our immigrants come form Latin America (which is mostly Roman Catholic).

I know that you cant help being hysterical. But-you know- look insane- OR look stupid- but dont do both!

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29 Mar 2011, 11:27 am

Inuyasha wrote:

Rhetorical Question: Why do I get the feeling that this is a misquote...

Let's add politico.com to the list of unreliable sources, then.

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29 Mar 2011, 11:31 am

ruveyn wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

Newt Gingrich is just stupid. Like on an epic level.

OK, now I understand the purpose of your other thread.

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29 Mar 2011, 12:15 pm

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"I am convinced that if we do not decisively win the struggle over the nature of America, by the time they're my age they will be in a secular atheist country..."

America will be ruled by Athiests?! Oh no! Oh darn, the horror.

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29 Mar 2011, 12:16 pm

NeantHumain wrote:

Let's pick apart right-wing logic.

First some definitions:

Atheism: Lack of belief in the Christian god: the three-in-one trinitarian god of Father in Heaven, the son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. This follows from the premises that there is only one true god and the Christian god is he. Since atheists do not believe in gods, it's self-evident that atheism applies to all non-Christians.
Secularism: The promotion of a government and public sphere separate from religious/spiritual life. Since this does not explicitly promote Christianity, it is atheist by default. Freedom of religion refers to the right to pick and choose among denominations of Christianity only rather than to a godless, secular state. To assure right-wingers that you are not promoting atheism, absolutely all communications must be prefaced by "by the grace of God" (e.g., "By the grace of God, this lunch-special menu published anno domini MMXI."); this is required even of preachers lest we fear they have converted to some paganism in the morrow. Anything less than restoring the Christian church to its historic role in the state is promoting atheistic secularism at the expense of religious freedom.

You always have an awesome way of putting these things

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