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14 Apr 2010, 2:19 am

...in supporting the poor and destitute?

Why do many countries have more mobility than the US? Or why does the US have such a high rate in distributing wealth to the uber rich and such a low rate of redistributing wealth to the poor?

Just would like to hear your thoughts on the matter.


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14 Apr 2010, 2:22 am

MissConstrue wrote:
...in supporting the poor and destitute?

Why do many countries have more mobility than the US? Or why does the US have such a high rate in distributing wealth to the uber rich and such a low rate of redistributing wealth to the poor?

Just would like to hear your thoughts on the matter.


It's quite obvious. The rich are in charge.



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14 Apr 2010, 2:30 am

It's because we were founded on an anti-regulation platform (we were finally fed up with the Stamp Act, Sugar Act, etc.), similar to what the Tea Party people are trying to promote now.

People don't want to be taxed to kingdom come to finance an all-inclusive welfare program. This is why there was a struggle getting the health care reform passed.


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14 Apr 2010, 2:42 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
It's because we were founded on an anti-regulation platform (we were finally fed up with the Stamp Act, Sugar Act, etc.), similar to what the Tea Party people are trying to promote now.

People don't want to be taxed to kingdom come to finance an all-inclusive welfare program. This is why there was a struggle getting the health care reform passed.


Obviously people don't want to be taxed to kingdom come, they prefer to be conned and gauged to kingdom come by the insurance and pharmaceutical rackets.



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14 Apr 2010, 8:11 am

MissConstrue wrote:
...in supporting the poor and destitute?

Why do many countries have more mobility than the US? Or why does the US have such a high rate in distributing wealth to the uber rich and such a low rate of redistributing wealth to the poor?

Just would like to hear your thoughts on the matter.


Probably because of the Cold War, whereby we glorified capitalism to an extreme. Just like Affirmative Action laws, there are regulations of the past which tend to carry over and disrupt life for those in the present even if they aren't as applicable now as they were then.



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14 Apr 2010, 8:33 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
...in supporting the poor and destitute?

Why do many countries have more mobility than the US? Or why does the US have such a high rate in distributing wealth to the uber rich and such a low rate of redistributing wealth to the poor?

Just would like to hear your thoughts on the matter.


Probably because of the Cold War, whereby we glorified capitalism to an extreme. Just like Affirmative Action laws, there are regulations of the past which tend to carry over and disrupt life for those in the present even if they aren't as applicable now as they were then.


If you believe that black people have equal opportunities in work, finances, legal and social inter-relations, you are as out of touch with reality on a par with your other stated beliefs.



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14 Apr 2010, 11:07 am

Secret eugenics project. If we can trick the world to thinking that we don't believe in evolution, then we can engage in gene improvement under the cover of secrecy, all of which to become a nation of uber-mensch!



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14 Apr 2010, 12:31 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Secret eugenics project. If we can trick the world to thinking that we don't believe in evolution, then we can engage in gene improvement under the cover of secrecy, all of which to become a nation of uber-mensch!


Unlikely.

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14 Apr 2010, 1:04 pm

If you judge by actions, it appears the USA contains a higher than average proportion of people who believe that the poor deserve to be poor.



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14 Apr 2010, 2:01 pm

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If you judge by actions, it appears the USA contains a higher than average proportion of people who believe that the poor deserve to be poor.


Or, in my case I am poor (unemployed at least), but I don't want welfare (i.e., money taken from others without their volition) but instead I want a career. People who want handouts, the ones that do not have a disability but are fully capable of working, do deserve to be poor. People who want to work for a living but can't find work, they don't deserve to be poor, they deserve to be given the ability to work for a living.



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14 Apr 2010, 2:11 pm

Americans are probably more charitable than any other people on Earth. They just don't like it when it when the government takes their money. The government still does through taxation or more sinisterly by just creating "new" money out of thin air to then dole it out to the corporate elites that helped them get elected.



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14 Apr 2010, 8:40 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Americans are probably more charitable than any other people on Earth.


Not true in the least.

I've lived in other countries. I would rank Tongans (and probably other South Pacific people) as the most charitable.

Americans the least.



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14 Apr 2010, 10:34 pm

What solidarity is there between Americans in general? <.<



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14 Apr 2010, 11:07 pm

pandabear wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Americans are probably more charitable than any other people on Earth.


Not true in the least.

I've lived in other countries. I would rank Tongans (and probably other South Pacific people) as the most charitable.

Americans the least.


I did hear it somewhere. If America become a socialist country, I have evidence that it would create a type of people who would capitalise on it. Then again it may end up like Sweden, a socialist success story.



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14 Apr 2010, 11:16 pm

phil777 wrote:
What solidarity is there between Americans in general? <.<


In general, it is "every man for himself" as Corporal Bower said in Pandorum. In specific, it depends upon your relationship with your friends and family or how good you are at being a rhetorician. We are a nation composed of iron and clay.



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14 Apr 2010, 11:19 pm

who would you rather be on the good side of. hatie or any country with nukes pointed at you