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11 May 2010, 2:26 pm

The one-eyed Scottish fool.

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11 May 2010, 3:56 pm

i am depressed by this news



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11 May 2010, 7:07 pm

I am apathetic about this news.


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11 May 2010, 8:15 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
I am apathetic about this news.


"Location: Alberta Canada"

Self-explanatory, really.



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11 May 2010, 8:39 pm

Tequila wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
I am apathetic about this news.


"Location: Alberta Canada"

Self-explanatory, really.


I'm the kinder, gentler troll.


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11 May 2010, 10:00 pm

My opinion on this was that there were many in the Labour Party who did not want to continue in government, they want the other parties to run things and make unpopular decisions and have their popularity plummet for that. When it appeared that a Lib-Lab deal might be most likely, many Labour people openly said that they didn't really want this, and this was one of the things that caused the Liberal-Democrats to turn back to the Conservatives.

My impression is that Brown personally would have done the politically courageous thing to continue managing things through these difficult times. As he indicated his plans to resign from the Labour leadership in order to make a coalition more likely, he ended this argument for keeping Labour in power in order that he continue to manage things. Those of more pragmatic opinion who think that Labour would be better off in opposition had an easier time setting the tone to help end any possibility of a coalition.

I would be depressed to be run by Cameron under any conditions. He wants to increase the number of unpaid workers and to increase the workload of such persons. He has American ideas that are very bad ones and would damage the economy and society and I think that when the government's popularity plummets Clegg and the Liberal Democrats will be in too deep to go back on the project and want to keep their cabinet posts through the term.



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12 May 2010, 3:02 am

Tequila wrote:
The one-eyed Scottish fool.

That is all.


Who is the one-eyed Scottish fool?

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12 May 2010, 4:10 am

He's poking fun (no pun intended) at the fact that Gordon Brown has only one eye. Rather then have a pirate patch he has a glass eye fitted instead.

I reckon he should of gone Moshe Dayan style when he became PM.



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12 May 2010, 6:19 am

xenon13 wrote:
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Xenon13 beat me to expressing my opinion, so I'm just noting my agreement :)

I also think the Con-Lib alliance is going to be a messy situation and we'll have another election in less than a year.

I don't get this hatred for Gordon Brown and how he is worse than any other politician. I think he made quite a few mistakes when he was Chancellor (I won't list them), but as Prime Minister, he had to deal with the consequences of his own policies, but much worse, with a global financial crisis that he did not cause and was not within his control. He was decisive and did the best he could.

Perhaps his biggest mistake was not getting a mandate and being an unelected leader.

I don't love him, or anything, but I don't think the government is better off for losing him.



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12 May 2010, 8:03 am

I'd prefer Gordon Brown over David Cameron...


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13 May 2010, 3:35 am

i hope for england's sake, that english conservatives are NOTHING like american conservatives.



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13 May 2010, 5:39 am

Yup.

I prefer both the Welsh hapless guy (Neil Kinnock) and the Scottish one-eyed dragon (Brown) to David Cameron.


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13 May 2010, 5:52 am

ruennsheng wrote:
Yup.

I prefer both the Welsh hapless guy (Neil Kinnock) and the Scottish one-eyed dragon (Brown) to David Cameron.


i wish american conservatives were as relatively [compared to american republicans] enlightened as david cameron. i know little of brown's politics or qualifications but i must say he had a nice, deep, measured and reassuring voice- that counts for something in a politician. as for neil kinnock, our present VP got in a little plagiaristically sticky wicket 2 decades or so back, for lifting a rather fine speech off of that eloquent man kinnock.



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13 May 2010, 6:58 am

I really thought all the dislike of him was rather irrational, jeremy clarkson and all his one eyed baiting was well crass



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13 May 2010, 8:38 am

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i hope for england's sake, that english conservatives are NOTHING like american conservatives.


THere are numerous different kinds of conservatives as you have in the US.

There are:

Liberal conservatives (like David Cameron and his ilk - more centrist than centre-right, decidedly 'cuddly', lack substance)
Libertarian conservatives (the right-wing of the party, favour leaving the EU and free trade. Emphasise civil liberties and a smaller state)
One nation conservatives (they sort of tie-in with the liberal conservatives - this is the pro-EU left of the party)
Thatcherites (some tie in with libertarians, others are much more socially conservative rather than libertarian, though both groups favour Thatcherite economics)
Traditional conservatives (the 'faith, flag and family' set - these view religion and the Crown as the bedrock of their conservatism. Can be seen as the 'religious right' of the Conservative Party almost)

The right-wing of the party are generally Eurosceptic whereas the left and centre are more pro-EU. The eurosceptic parts of the party in particular often vote for UKIP.



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13 May 2010, 9:06 am

ruveyn wrote:
Tequila wrote:
The one-eyed Scottish fool.

That is all.


Who is the one-eyed Scottish fool?

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Tequila is making a discriminatory joke about the disabled, based on the fact that Gordon Brown lost the sight in one of his eyes as a result of a rugby accident when he was a young man.

As for whether Gordon Brown is a fool or not, Paul Krugman, recently awarded the Nobel Prize for economics, thinks differently.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/econ ... Brown.html

I suspect that this is a man who knows rather more about the subject than I do.