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how many of you know what other-kin is?
what are your thoughts on it?

I personally believe in it, having past life memories of myself as an elf.
It makes since if you believe in reincarnation.

Damn straight! i'm otherkin myself!

I can change into god at a moment's notice, and what is more of a legendary creature than god?
Hrm... which shall it be today? Thor? na I'd have to go get me a woman too quick... Zeus? na, just combed my hair, the lightning would frizz it up... Yahweh... Blah.. nope that mindset is just too creepy...
Hrm.. I know... seeing as it is 1 am... I'll try Hypnos tonight, the god of sleep. Time to dig up my horn of sleep inducing opium.

But seriously folks... I want what she's on! Hrm.. wait, na.. i got my horn, that'll work just fine.

Actually Just-me, no personal insult is intended in this.

That's not otherkin, that's munchkin.

Though I was raised Christian (and remain so in spirit), I am quite familiar with the occult, new age material, and the like (my aunt is Wicca, etc). I identify with angels, though I wouldn't say I am one, but I could be wrong. I have also consistently dreamed I was somebody else. My aunt claims it to be past life regression, but there is nothing to be proven of it. I am not complaining as this 'past life' is quite pleasant. I do know however, that if I ever meet a woman with the same face as the heroine of this dream that I will ask her out immediately.

Sounds interesting, and hardly impossible. I haven't had much experience in the way of past life memories or anything, but I do think I believe in them. I think I may just be pretty new. ^^; *laughs, remembering Pheobe on Friends telling Joey that he's brand new in one scene*

I don't know though. I may just be getting a little too tired to remember that stuff right now.

I have definite feelings, at times, of being a jackass and it even comes about that people see me as such but the theory seems doubtful to me.

LMAO! Don't give into your past life too much though, or you might offend some people who really do believe in these things.

Don't worry, you haven't offended me. I don't take any belief in anything spiritual seriously enough to get offended by a good small bit of witty ridicule, but I'd rather not have people defecating on the whole topic entirely, and destroying the possibility of a good discussion amongst people who at least believe in the possibility of some things similar to this. >.>

The only life you possess is this one. No one has past lives and no one has a future life. This is the one and only life you have, so be careful with it.

ruveyn

Is it just me, or could you not say something like this to a Christian about their beliefs? FYI, I for one intend to take good care of this life, for it is precious whether or not there have been or ever will be any others.

I, again, don't take my beliefs in these sorts of things seriously enough to get irritated when people question them in earnest, but would you do this to a Christian talking about heaven? I dislike the double-standard that's so often present. Do you believe in anything yourself? If you're just an atheist, I guess that's sort of okay maybe.... =/ But if you have your own silly religious fantasy ideas, you have no right.

Err, not to totally generalize religious beliefs as silly and useless, but... I mean....

I just don't like it when people disrespect one another's religious beliefs, when those beliefs aren't hurting anybody directly, like believing that homosexuality is a sin, for instance. That causes a lot of suffering for some people whom are convinced to believe in that, but are in fact inherently that way themselves. Belief in reincarnation doesn't preclude the valuing of this incarnation.... >.>

I would say it to anyone because it is true.

ruveyn

Okay. Point acknowledged. I won't keep you from expressing your own view on the matter. That would be pretty wrong of me after all. xP

Point is, I kinda thought this thread was directed at people who do believe in reincarnation already, or at least are willing to consider it, asking about what they think of the concept of otherkin.

I guess we did kinda steal our little witch friend's thread, didn't we?
Sorry, but at least i can say it wasn't just me, Just-me.

There are many of us that would rather ground ourselves in reality, that we immediately snap at such concepts.
your honest and good natured query, Just-me, is like a tempting bait for us cynics to snap up like a worm to a fish. Some of us, myself included cannot resist.

My own reply above ended up more cynical than I'd really intended, that's why i had to put the nothing personal disclaimer at the bottom, just seemed to harsh, when I knew you were just looking for others to share your opinions.

This is the reason why many (not all mind you) of us... though I am included in this.... snap so quickly at these things.
I was forced to believe something just as non-grounded in reality when i was a child. I didn't have a choice. The concept of choice wasn't something that ever even dawned on me, because of how those beliefs were put upon me.

When i see people espousing such beliefs, it's a knee-jerk reaction. I have to say something, because all I can do is think "Their poor &^$@-ing children...."

I know that you, and many other people in this world, many of them here on this forum, myself included, are looking and searching so desperately for something to believe in. We can sometimes just grab at things that seem "nice" things that bring back memories that we view as good, things that make us feel better about ourselves.
It is easy to grab onto such beliefs... people have done so for a long long time. Many of them are far more unrealistic than what you're talking about too.
But we have to caution ourselves, lest we fall into the same trap that has ensnared the people of the past, created systems of rigourous control on our daily lives... The types of things that i deeply suspect you have run from, and are trying to avoid, and which in turn have left you at this place in life where you believe that you need to find something like this.

I can't offer much in help though, Just-me.
But I can offer you one suggestion...
How about you believe in yourself. Believe in your own ability to make decisions. Believe in your own moral judgement about the decisions that you have to make each day. To savour in the responsibility, be it good or bad, from the actions you take. Take the laurel when you do well, and wear it with pride, take the dart when you fail, and wear it to help you learn in the future.
Only you can make choices for yourself, no matter how much you want to be able to shift that to some past being, or some omnipotent god, you cannot... You possess your own free will, and you alone have the power to exert it.

A Quote from a song from Rush: Free will. (the chorus)

I would have taken offense if it weren't for the disclaimer. i dont mind you disagreeing with me as long as you dont make fun of me.

I made this topic to see the differing views about the subject. disagreement is just fine, in fact it is what makes discussing such things so fun! as long as that disagreement does not turn into hate or ridicule toward either party.



Oh my i never considered that . see my parents are both atheists but they never forced there views onto me. my parents may have done alot of abusive things to me growing up but they got this one right.

When i first expressed my interest in religion they sat me down and talked about it. they wanted me to look around at all the religions before making a choice of what to believe. I still do not have a set belief and probably never will i believe in a little from many different religions ranging from Buddhist , Christianity, paganism to odd things like other kin.

but i would never force my views on others. especially kids! if i ever have kids i will sit them down and tell them what my parents told me. to chose for themselves but dont force those views on others.

I see religion as a way to understand the world. i feel there are set laws governing the universe other then physics. I have see things in life that lead me to believe that there is an underlying force that is at work in this world. whether that be god, magic, spiritual energy or destiny. But i feel something makes things happen in life that cant yet be explained. and until science explains it religion fills that gap (at least for me).

I am not quite sure what your talking about here but i want to understand. I am not quite sure what your referring to. so if you could explain it better i would greatly appreciate it.



I do decide for myself , and i am responsible for the choices i make (which is a gift in my eyes). i feel big parts of my life are controlled by destiny but i still must make my own decisions and have the courage to own up to my mistakes. it is part of being an individual.

I do not think I am an elf now, I feel my soul has remnants of my past life as an elf. but all this does is give me incite to my past life and knowledge of how it has shaped my soul into who i am today. I feel i still have some psychic gifts from that past life but alot of people have psychic ability not just other kin.

Thank you for stating your views i appreciate it. i especially appreciate your explanation as to why so many are intolerant to religion. i have never had views forced on me so i did not know people thought i was forcing my views onto them. i am not trying to force my views. i just want to discuss them with people.

I am not preaching, I just want a good discussion about other kin from both sides. feel free to disagree. nothing wrong with that! in fact my views have been swayed in the past by non believers. i am a person searching for the truth, so i try to listen to views on both sides, that's how i sort it all out.

You've not been reading the threads! Ruveyn is famous for saying this kind of thing to us Christians all the time. Personally, it doesn't bother me in the least, since he is perfectly logical given his frame of reference, and utterly egalitarian in his skepticism. Since the thread did ask what people thought of otherkin, he's perfectly justified to make his feelings known.

If you are confident of your beliefs no ridicule can touch you. As a lifelong atheist I find all supernatural beliefs generally idiotic and based on wish fulfillment. What disturbs me,as it seems to disturb ruyven as well, is that interest devoted to obvious fantasies detracts from the energy and creativity and delight in this very precious time of being alive. I find that unforgivable.