(Simplified) Social Psychology of Conspiracy theorists

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17 May 2010, 4:45 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-gMedxCulw&feature=related[/youtube]



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19 May 2010, 10:09 pm

Neither story, official or truther is true.

Truthers will not get their answers. So, in a way the whole things is moot.

the video has one flaw... LIHOP doesn't require thousands of conspirators.

My take on it all... The government just didn't take a warning serious.
And after it all happened, the tragedy was "used" by an unscrupulous administration in a way that makes people think the whole thing was planned. In reality, the event WAS just what the admin needed to justify what it was planning to do anyways, even if it didn't get justification. The tragedy just facilitated it, and moreover made it "palatable." Heck, it made a lot of people WANT it.

What better way to take the rights of your citizens, but have have them offer them over to you. How could the admin NOT use it?



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20 May 2010, 5:09 am

The still on that YouTube video shows David Aaronovitch, the author of Voodoo Histories. That's David Aaronovitch the Marxian-multiculturalist-turned-Zionist-warhawk who cheered on the war in Iraq in his Times columnn, the intellectual giant who once appeared as a student on University Challenge and answered every question with "Karl Marx" and has now somehow become one of the "top" newspaper columnists in the country. Gosh, what possible motivation could he have to write a book rubbishing "conspiracy theories"? Apart from a selfless devotion to truth, of course.

And no, I'm not a "truther". I just think that people like him are no more deserving of attention than the people he criticises.



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20 May 2010, 1:17 pm

Conspiracy Interest of the week topic

Conspiracy truthers are urban hoaxers. :roll:


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20 May 2010, 2:54 pm

Disinformation at it's most cynical.


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22 May 2010, 2:01 pm

Jesse Ventura had a TV program and recently wrote a book on conspiracy theories.



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22 May 2010, 3:28 pm

Exclavius wrote:
Neither story, official or truther is true.

Truthers will not get their answers. So, in a way the whole things is moot.

the video has one flaw... LIHOP doesn't require thousands of conspirators.

Essentially this.

Finding and evaluating real evidence is a skill, and one should seek from the most primary sources available, the problem here is that people will rely on information passed on countless times; the video interviews such experts on America's governmental methods and enemies as some guy from Rolling Stone magazine, and some guy who makes theories about conspiracy theorists.



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22 May 2010, 3:49 pm

Asmodeus wrote:
Exclavius wrote:
Neither story, official or truther is true.

Truthers will not get their answers. So, in a way the whole things is moot.

the video has one flaw... LIHOP doesn't require thousands of conspirators.

Essentially this.

Finding and evaluating real evidence is a skill, and one should seek from the most primary sources available, the problem here is that people will rely on information passed on countless times; the video interviews such experts on America's governmental methods and enemies as some guy from Rolling Stone magazine, and some guy who makes theories about conspiracy theorists.


http://madcowprod.com/

A solid investigator and a big part of why I don't believe the official story on 9/11 and the war on drugs. Solid investigating, tracing the money, and asking the questions.


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22 May 2010, 4:10 pm

pandabear wrote:
Jesse Ventura had a TV program and recently wrote a book on conspiracy theories.


Come on Jesse, admit it. We all know wrestling's fixed.



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22 May 2010, 8:26 pm

skysaw wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Jesse Ventura had a TV program and recently wrote a book on conspiracy theories.


Come on Jesse, admit it. We all know wrestling's fixed.


That is what They want you to think.

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22 May 2010, 8:46 pm

ruveyn wrote:
skysaw wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Jesse Ventura had a TV program and recently wrote a book on conspiracy theories.


Come on Jesse, admit it. We all know wrestling's fixed.


That is what They want you to think.

ruveyn


Did perhaps the most skeptical member of WP just semi-imply that wrestling ISN'T fixed?



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22 May 2010, 8:50 pm

Exclavius wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
skysaw wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Jesse Ventura had a TV program and recently wrote a book on conspiracy theories.


Come on Jesse, admit it. We all know wrestling's fixed.


That is what They want you to think.

ruveyn


Did perhaps the most skeptical member of WP just semi-imply that wrestling ISN'T fixed?


You are sarcasm blind, but then again, this a a forum for Aspies, right?

ruveyn



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22 May 2010, 8:50 pm

ruveyn wrote:
skysaw wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Jesse Ventura had a TV program and recently wrote a book on conspiracy theories.


Come on Jesse, admit it. We all know wrestling's fixed.


That is what They want you to think.

ruveyn


Or maybe they want us to think that it is fixed, so that they can hide their real secret: it's actually a science fiction show.


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22 May 2010, 10:45 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Exclavius wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
skysaw wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Jesse Ventura had a TV program and recently wrote a book on conspiracy theories.


Come on Jesse, admit it. We all know wrestling's fixed.


That is what They want you to think.

ruveyn


Did perhaps the most skeptical member of WP just semi-imply that wrestling ISN'T fixed?


You are sarcasm blind, but then again, this a a forum for Aspies, right?

ruveyn


Sorry, i should've used an emoticon... I'm still gettin' used to those thingee-ma-jigs :oops:

Mind you... i do have this tendency that I know i miss sarcasm... so even when i do get it, i like to throw it back at people as though i took it literally (which in a way is a form of sarcasm itself)...Seeing as few people catch my other attempts at sarcasm, i think it's fair.... Sadly it becomes a viscous cycle sometimes and no one wins.



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22 May 2010, 10:52 pm

Exclavius wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Exclavius wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
skysaw wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Jesse Ventura had a TV program and recently wrote a book on conspiracy theories.


Come on Jesse, admit it. We all know wrestling's fixed.


That is what They want you to think.

ruveyn


Did perhaps the most skeptical member of WP just semi-imply that wrestling ISN'T fixed?


You are sarcasm blind, but then again, this a a forum for Aspies, right?

ruveyn



Sorry, i should've used an emoticon... I'm still gettin' used to those thingee-ma-jigs :oops:

Mind you... i do have this tendency that I know i miss sarcasm... so even when i do get it, i like to throw it back at people as though i took it literally (which in a way is a form of sarcasm itself)...Seeing as few people catch my other attempts at sarcasm, i think it's fair.... Sadly it becomes a viscous cycle sometimes and no one wins.

I miss sarcasm. We should have more sarcasm. :P



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22 May 2010, 10:59 pm

skafather84 wrote:
Disinformation at it's most cynical.


Are you speaking of conspiracy theories or their refutation?