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28 May 2010, 2:39 pm
Fuzzy wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
But as to America currently being a Christian Nation, a nation in itself cannot be Christian, nor can it be Atheist nor anything else. The current population can be mainly this or that, but that changes with the moment.
This interesting statement by mister Keet made me think of the old medieval concept of "The Dominion". That is, the idea that the areas of society, specifically those in proximity to churches were thought to have have gods special protection against the evils and chaos of the world.
Not that anyone thought that human evil couldnt happen in these areas, but that the wilderness and outlaying areas were subject to chaos, evil creatures and that the devil held a good deal of power there. It was there that faeries and the like acted freely. "There be dragons" so to speak.
Obviously modern Christianity has dropped such notions.
That wasn't what I was thinking of when I wrote my quotation above. The land itself is dead, basically. Plants don't think and animals don't vote and lack the ability to communicate in much depth or interest of understanding (unless, which there always is somebody who will point out that man is defined as an animal. But I beg to disagree! Man is a featherless biped!! ! *Squawk!! !*
). And the paperwork which calls a nations as something which actually exists is also dead and has no authority of its own. The people who are by paper citizens of this or that nation are those who have the ability to be Christian, Jewish, or Atheist, or Agnostic, or Hindu, or Taoist, or otherwise regard a certain history as true and accept the implications thereof.
28 May 2010, 2:48 pm
Creepy.... 
I don't think that's what America's 4 fathers had in mind when they mentioned the separation of church and state thank the flying spaghetti god.
If we did, we'd have more people like this ruling the U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs8uPqiqO2o
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs8uPqiqO2o[/youtube]
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28 May 2010, 3:12 pm
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Aimless wrote:
Yes, it was obvious the tape was heavily edited, but I never got the impression that anyone was trying to fool anybody. It's called satire and it is a good thing.
It's good that people have the freedom to do such things without punishment, but I don't consider it all that good. It's cherry picking.
I would agree if I thought that it tried to depict all Christians that way but I didn't get that impression.That would have been unfair. Maybe you mean Phelps, Falwell,Robertson and the like in particular? I don't like people who use religion as a weapon. Especially that s.o.b. Phelps.
28 May 2010, 3:21 pm
Aimless wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Aimless wrote:
Yes, it was obvious the tape was heavily edited, but I never got the impression that anyone was trying to fool anybody. It's called satire and it is a good thing.
It's good that people have the freedom to do such things without punishment, but I don't consider it all that good. It's cherry picking.
I would agree if I thought that it tried to depict all Christians that way but I didn't get that impression.That would have been unfair. Maybe you mean Phelps, Falwell,Robertson and the like in particular? I don't like people who use religion as a weapon. Especially that s.o.b. Phelps.
I agree.
"You can't preach the Bible without preaching the hatred of God."
- Pastor Fred Phelps
"Not only is homosexuality a sin, but anyone who supports fags is just as guilty as they are. You are both worthy of death (Romans 1:32),"
- Pastor Fred Phelps
"The Jews of Temple Beth Sholom are sinful, greedy, Hell-bound, money-grubbing sodomites; and they have dedicated their synagogue to be a gay and lesbian propaganda mill and recruiting depot, soliciting young people to sodomy."
- Pastor Fred Phelps
Amazing what you can get away with in the name of religion in this country.
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28 May 2010, 3:23 pm
Aimless wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Aimless wrote:
Yes, it was obvious the tape was heavily edited, but I never got the impression that anyone was trying to fool anybody. It's called satire and it is a good thing.
It's good that people have the freedom to do such things without punishment, but I don't consider it all that good. It's cherry picking.
I would agree if I thought that it tried to depict all Christians that way but I didn't get that impression.That would have been unfair. Maybe you mean Phelps, Falwell,Robertson and the like in particular? I don't like people who use religion as a weapon. Especially that s.o.b. Phelps.
I've never heard of Phelps before now, and from this kind of first impression I wouldn't want to care to hear anything he has to say.... oh wait, that is the intended goal. There are loads of people who only listen to proponents of their own views to find out what their opposition says and it has this effect.
However, I used to watch the 700 club. They do some good missionary and medical work in Africa, and Ben Kinchlow was fairly cool I thought at the time.
VenomfangX, he isn't even on YouTube after Muslims in his neighborhood threatened to kill him and his family if he didn't stop. At least that is the last I heard of him.
Falwell, I wouldn't want to be at his college. I'd get marked down for any doctrinal issue I didn't agree with probably, it costs a heck of a lot, and there would be stigma attached to having a degree from there because of people who don't like Falwell.
