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02 Jun 2010, 11:11 pm

Really i do believe in Karma it just something that just happens when you mess with people



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02 Jun 2010, 11:22 pm

I reject all spiritual nonsense, STRIDENTLY!!

Instead, I offer materialism. And matter, as strange as it seems, does not care about you, and your cells do not love you either.



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02 Jun 2010, 11:26 pm

I agree with the Thumpalumpacus theory of Karma:

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I postulate a non-spiritual, mechanical version of karma, and oddly enough, I can explain it in brief (as opposed to my usual ramblings):

[Jerks] make enemies.

Of course, this does not account for reincarnation, nor should it, considering the paucity of evidence for it.


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02 Jun 2010, 11:38 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
I agree with the Thumpalumpacus theory of Karma:

Thumpalumpacus wrote:
[Jerks] make enemies.

Not always the case. I know a number of successful jerks.

As to karma in general, it is obviously superstitious nonsense.


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02 Jun 2010, 11:58 pm

I would say that karma is related to luck and intelligence as well. I do agree to some extent with the "[Jerks] make enemies. " which I believe it means a cause and effect thing, however as Orwell points out, some people get away with their acts.

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As to karma in general, it is obviously superstitious nonsense.

well, from a Christian perspective, there is the concept of Hell and Heaven, and also, supposedly, people who would believe in karma would try to behave better to avoid bad karma, given that fear seems to be the greatest motivator for people to do or not to do things.


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03 Jun 2010, 12:27 am

Do I believe in karma? Nah, not really. I don't have a theory about or anything, I just don't really.



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03 Jun 2010, 4:54 am

I reject spiritual nonsense far more STRIDENTLY than AG and as far as materialism goes what would a post-modernist know about it :P


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03 Jun 2010, 5:41 am

I have little doubt that our acts and choices have consequences. Is that Karma?

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03 Jun 2010, 6:45 am

I think it's a good philosophy to have in life. I do good things in hopes the favor will be returned to me one day. Good things don't always happen to good people unfortunately but I do believe bad people will get what's coming to them eventually one way or the other.



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03 Jun 2010, 8:33 am

ruveyn wrote:
I have little doubt that our acts and choices have consequences. Is that Karma?

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I think karma is an extension of that observation.



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03 Jun 2010, 9:19 am

Malachi_Rothschild wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
I have little doubt that our acts and choices have consequences. Is that Karma?

ruveyn


I think karma is an extension of that observation.


Karma is an attempt to foster on reality the human system of justice and it simply doesn't work. What it does do is assure people that when they get screwed the screwer will get paid back so it is a calming influence. But it's a delusion.



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03 Jun 2010, 9:28 am

Sand wrote:
Malachi_Rothschild wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
I have little doubt that our acts and choices have consequences. Is that Karma?

ruveyn


I think karma is an extension of that observation.


Karma is an attempt to foster on reality the human system of justice and it simply doesn't work.


I agree, and I also think that the particular form it took was influenced by poor inference from observations of cause and effect.



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03 Jun 2010, 11:10 am

DentArthurDent wrote:
I reject spiritual nonsense far more STRIDENTLY than AG and as far as materialism goes what would a post-modernist know about it :P

A bit more than a Marxist, as we don't tend to come to the conclusion that it leads to the "communist society" if we just add a little bit of science. Anybody could be less braindead than that. Heck, Mr. Dent, tell me exactly how your homeopathy is materialist as well? I somehow think that chemicals can be diluted in any matter-based world.

And no, I am the STRIDENT one.



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03 Jun 2010, 12:43 pm

There seems to be a conflict between the two dents, Arthur and Stri. Is that an coinci or an acci?

Probably evi.



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03 Jun 2010, 5:12 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Heck, Mr. Dent, tell me exactly how your homeopathy is materialist as well? I somehow think that chemicals can be diluted in any matter-based world.

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That slanderous cur 84, but then AG as a claimed materialist I would expect you not to take hearsay as evidence, but of course your not, what more could I expect from a postmodernist disguising themselves in materialist clothing :P


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03 Jun 2010, 5:17 pm

DentArthurDent wrote:
That slanderous cur 84, but then AG as a claimed materialist I would expect you not to take hearsay as evidence, but then what would I expect from a postmodernist disguising themselves in materialist clothing :P

Dent, all of our evidence is what another person has heard. Don't you understand our relationship to the scientific process. Neither you nor I have the competence to critically evaluate the current perceived workings of the Kreb's cycle so we accept it.

That being said, you still aren't questioning my atheist credentials by emphasizing that I am from a different brand of atheist. (regardless of whether I really am or not)