Guantanamo, dentention camps, rendition why it is necessary

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This war is different than ant that has preceeded it. it id different in many respects, but most starkly it is differently becausy the enemy is an amporphorous group not sharing a nationality, but ratthaer an ideology. They do not ear uniforms, they do not mass on battlefields. More insisideous yet, they train in various locations and disperse worldwide to wreak havock. They do not necessariily have a centralized control and command structure. Because of these and many other factors the metod of dealing with this enemy has to be different as well. The object cannot be criminal prosecution. The object cannot be simply detention. The object MUST be disruption of their plans to wreal havock and stop act of terrorism BEFORE they occur...that disruption somtimes calls for extrordinary means. Read that to mean. rendition, and aggresive interrogation...do not read it to mean TORTURE.

There was and enemy that went across all borders, yet shared an ideology that the US went to many lengths to stop. It was called COMMUNISM! Now that communism is gone, or friends with the US, or just a nuisance, it's now terrorism. Not just that but ISLAMIC TERRORISM! For God's sake, the Poms had to put up with the IRA for decades, and they haven't got offshore detention centres (although both sides had some dirty tricks).

The fighting tactics against a terrorist group should be modified, not the tactics as to what to do with them once you've got them. For God's sake, even Saddam f***ing Hussein was probably treated better than some of those terrorists, and he was probably responsible for more deaths than the 9/11 attacks!

Oh, and by the way....

TORTURE!

I think the Yanks are making a time machine so they can get the Spanish Inquisition, and ask for pointers.....

Communism is not gone, look a Cuba And look at what Chavez is trying to do with the rest of Central and South America, Hell, just look at the Democrat Party in the US....The enemy is not terrorism, the enemy is Islamic Caliphatists.

I'll keep my opinion to myself on this one so I don't start a flame war.

Don't worry, I've got asbestos clothing on....

I fail to see how social liberalism is communism.

The Republicans and Democrats are so much like each other, God it's depressing. Vote for third parties!

speak up snake321 i for one would be interested to hear your opinion. and in any case, it cant be any more ridiculous that DaveB78's, who seems to conveniently forget about the terrorist groups that his US government have supported over the years.
all i will say is "school of the americas". and there is more than that, much more...

Please enlighten me as to which terror groups the US has supported over the years, as you are correct, I do have no such memory...while you are at it, please tell me what cause these terrorists were advocating.

Last edited by DaveB78 on 03 Oct 2006, 1:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Like in the UK:

well it might depend on how you define terrorism. but if you take the official us definition of terrorism,

"the unlawful use of -- or threatened use of -- force or violence against individuals or property to coerce or intimidate governments or societies, often to achieve political, religious, or ideological objectives."

then i would say that death squads in south america and indonesia could be classed as terrorists.

and in actual fact, going by that definition, it could pprobably be argued that the invasion of iraq was an act of terrorism.

Again, just what did the US do to support terror and what agenda were the groups advocating?

the funding and training of guerilla groups for the purpose of deposing democratically elected regimes and quelling popular uprisings. afghanistan, nicaragua, laos, cambodia, indonesia, bolivia, guatemala, honduras, the list goes on etc etc

How many of those regimes were communist and how much of the training took place during the COLD WAR? You do realize that most tyrants, Hitler for instance, are popularly elected, popular elections should not be confused with freedom.

the political tendencies of the regimes in question is completely irrelevant.