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So, its going around Hollywood again, Paris just got busted, Lindsey Lohan has been known for her binges - hit a guy drunk as well. Its nothing new, Hollywood celebrities tend to for some reason think they're 80's rockstars. Typically the PD's try to throw the book at them as much as the average American but it never quite works.

I get it though - we live in a capitalist society, these people make/generate a lot of capital, and we have a tendency to pad the consequences because they're cash-cows. I also get that we don't typically want to let them in with other inmates who typically haven't had the same types of lives because, obviously, really bad things would happen.

My take though - Paris's possession was apparently counted about as close to personal use as you can get, I think the next time anyone in Hollywood gets caught with anything over - guy, girl, movie star, clothing designer, even if they have to make special arrangements the time should not be cut short. If his/her possession amounts to 3 years - that should be 3 years of washing prison laundry or whatever task they'd typically put them up to. If they need to talk to their stock brokers and put someone else in charge of their retail operations so be it, no need to kill outside financial success but - there is need to keep them in prison, solitary if need be, for as long as the law typically dictates. If they're an actor, well, that's hard but s--- happens and if they want to be partying like Johnny Depp in Blow they're going to have to be as low profile with it as anyone else would need to be, not peeling around with drunk friends. The point also being - if they can't behave with enough clarity and get caught, especially with stars having special accomodations, that also means that they have better leverage to keep them drug free while they're in. The dumber the things they did to get caught as well as their carried dosage means that much longer that they should be dead sober.

I know I'm probably giving a speech on how to master the obvious, but things don't seem like they're going as they should. Would second or third offenses typically have this much leeway?

Celebrities aren't cash cows.

As far as padding their consequences, I think they should be more severe considering that they are allowed such an elevated position in society when they're not breaking the law. Make 'em work as normal from jail but all their income goes to the state or the feds during their time in prison.

If they were a black person working a minimum wage job, they'd see prison time on the first offense. Not just racism there but also the inability to defend one's self and the horrific inefficiency of public defenders.

Well, mostly in the form of indirect capital and taxes generated through movies - though some are starting fashion outfits or opening night clubs, which yield some employment even if its token.


It sounds tempting but, I'm about as afraid of government getting their hands on the money and saying "Wow, this is great - we need more of this". Perhaps charity but even then, it creates kind of a strange dynamic if they're biding for starts to end up in the clink.


Even if you were white I think you'd need to be pretty rich to have lawyers who could mitigate much - granted I can't imagine free legal representation being very good.

In a way, we already have that now. It's the biggest raison d'être for the war on drugs at this point: you increase the prison population, employ more construction and guards, and get insanely cheaper labor than you would from legitimate manufacturing factories aside from outside the country. The cheap labor is the biggest selling point. The other jobs are token and can be used as political fodder....the slave labor point doesn't really work well in political fodder other than with the far right and even then, you could argue that it's jobs that legitimate people should have.

It'd also be a useful way to reduce sentencing for such people. You have a reduced sentence but you also are forfeiting your wages.

It wouldn't work with lower incomes, obviously because there are many people who live month to month, week to week (as if being sentence to jail doesn't absolutely ruin their lives) but it'd work for those high income brackets. Particularly white collar criminals.

There are some solid arguments that these celebrities are actually serving more severe sentences in CA because they ARE celebrities. The California system is illegally overcrowded, so most prisoners are out long before their sentences are served. Those decisions are somewhat discretionary and made at the prison or local level. The pressure NOT to release Lindsay Lohan early is stronger than the pressure NOT to release Jane Jones early, because few will talk about the later.

I don't think anyone is compiling the actual early release stats, however.

The sentence issued by the judge is not the sentence that will be served. To know how "fair" it all is, you've got to find the stats on infraction v. actual sentence served, early release and all.

There are differences among counties, too, where certain judges have pet issues. I've been told that a drunk driving conviction in certain counties will earn a 3 year prison sentence, and only a month in others; I don't know if that is true, but it wouldn't surprise me. Since most celebrities are hitting the courts in a select group of counties, that pre-existing bias is going to play out, as well, and may have nothing to do with celebrity status.

Attempting to give a damn. Please stand by....

So yet another batch of halfwit 22 year old "stars" get arrested for sex and drugs and violence.

So what?

Can anyone tell me who the real stars are?

Hands up anyone who can tell me who has the greatest soprano voice.

Who is the greatest violin or piano player of our day?

Who is the greatest living composer or architect or sculptor?

We don't know. We don't care. Tell us more about the 22 year old drunken out of control sluts.

*shrug* It's their lives, really. If they want to screw it up that's their loss. :/

Why is what any of these people put up their nose in private ANYONE else's business?

When they drive off in a vehicle, it's everyone's business.