Cut illegal immigrants some slack

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I'm not being rude.

Then why call me dense?

You sound like a conspiracy theorist, which it isn't surprising, given that many racists believe in a jewish or any other conspiracy, given that you imply that there is some conspiracy against poor whites and that "we are all the human race" is a conspiracy.


Did you just say culture?


Oh, the yuck factor, nice argument, I suppose that is justification enough for you to politically do something. Very likely, some people would not find you pleasing to look at either, and many of them white.


Culture again?


Only in your head, I doubt non-causacian people are on the 'morlocks' side, in the real world.


"In the sense that we are human beings". regarding intelligence and cognition doesn't seem to be connected to race, in order to justify a classification of humans as subhumans, seems a justification to say that we are equally the same species.


Honestly I believe most racists are not to be taken seriously anyway, given that their thinking seems to go along the lines of conspiracy theorists.

Well as long as you wish to go to absurd extremes, how about 6000 pounds? 60,000 pounds? 600,000 pounds? 6,000,000 pounds? Etc. You can always bring up extremities whereby poor health intercedes with the ability to find beauty. However, even in such cases there may be people who would yet see the beauty in them personally rather than merely seek a standard set by the pornography industry.


I consider my wife to be quite beautiful, yet others, by numerical value of weigh alone, would not. She is lovely regardless though.

No, they wouldn't. The pornography industry dictates all. (unless you have a weird attraction to something odd, like goats)

Actually, the Hollywood industry or mainstream entertainment. American porn 'standard' doesn't seem as high.


Goats are important in the porn industry.

A rose by any other name...

Okay I finally have time to debate. I have a lot of cat catching up to do...

"No softening of manners, no advance in wealth, and no reform or revolution has ever brought human equality a millimeter nearer." -George Orwell

Your notion of equality is a pipe dream that is a form of self-delusion perpetuated by people with no experience dealing with the real world. The planet is overpopulated and there is no way to make resources go around. The haves will use the resources at their disposal to defend what they have, and the have nots will continue to get the shaft. Nationalism is an extension of this; America cannot fix the poverty in the rest of the world so the only thing that can be done is to look after Americans.


Asking for figures is a bit hypocritical since you haven't shown any figures either and we haven't discussed figures yet, but if you insist...

There are 23,000,000 alien invaders in the US (that would make a big difference in unemployment and social service costs).
In the last decade they have wired $317,000,000,000 to Latin America.
In the last decade they cost $397,000,000,000 in healthcare costs.
There are 5,000,000 alien invader spawn in public schools (not counting anchor babies).
There have been 5,000,000 anchor babies born in the US in the last decade.
Their cost to the public school system has been $178,000,000,000
There are 432,000 alien invaders incarcerated.
There are 753,000 alien invader fugitives.
Their cost of incarceration for the last 2 years alone is $28,000,000,000. That works out to ~$140,000,000 for the last decade.
Alien invaders take up 11,000,000 skilled jobs.

The total cost of illegal immigration for the last decade is ~$1,032,000,000,000,000. All figures are rounded down. That amount of money would have paid for the war on terror or paid off Obamacare. I didn't even factor in the cost of the jobs lost to alien invaders or the costs to citizens and valid visa holders from the cost of treating the diseases alien invaders carry or the injuries from them getting behind the wheel (often while drunk).

California propositions 187 and 209 were approved by voters to ban public services to alien invaders, but they were struck down in the state supreme court. Alien invaders regularly collect welfare, social security, foodstamps, and medicaid.

We did that as long as possible and got a huge workforce and some real intellectual gems from the deal. Now there isn't room for them- both physically or in the economy. We took all we can and there is very little room for more intellectuals (we have a surplus of cheap, and in some cases expendable) labor and it would be detrimental to the nation to take on more.

Also, Europe isn't a bad now as it was back then. Perhaps they'd like to take upon themselves some of the illegal immigrants who keep trying to illegally immigrate to the U.S. Or perhaps take hyperlexian up on her offer, let them immigrate to her home in Canada.

I'm sure hyperlexian wil learn to love the bad/drunk rivers, mariachi music all hours of the night, dangerous dogs running loose in the neighborhood, kids that are watched about as closely as their dogs, and neighbors having alcohol fueled domestic disturbances that regularly require the cops to come play Mexican marriage counselor.

Oh they'll bring the kids all right.

I have liberal views, but it's not so easy to accommodate a population that for the most part doesn't assimilate, essentially doesn't respect the laws of the country they've snuck into, and doesn't value education. If they came here, paid taxes, honored our laws, stayed in school at least until high school, and didn't generally adopt a backward poverty mentality, I don't think there would be so much of a problem but that's hardly the case. A lot of them get free health care, don't pay taxes, walk around with this thug mentality, are pregnant by the time they're fifteen, then end up in jail and leave the kids with the grand parents. I understand it's hard to migrate here legally (it can take 10 years) and I know it's impossible to make a living on 64 cents a day, but if your butt just has to be in my country, at least behave yourself. It's not too much to ask.

Also, I'd just like to add to this that I'd hate to think what we spend in total for English-2nd-Language programs, recruitment of bilingual teachers, and the general cost associated with feeling obligated to educate all of those that "don't habla."

In my schools, every time we had a student come in speaking some obscure language like Malayalam, the school had to go and hire some interpreter just so this one student could habla, on the taxpayer dime of course. There is a bigger cost than many may realize for all of these ESLers, to say nothing of their massive burden on the rest of society.



I'd have a ton of nickels if I had a nickel for every time I saw a Senegalese or a Haitian, or something else pay for cigarettes and beer at a gas station with their EBT card. Its like they just get one gratuitiously for showing up........... no one really knows why? They are generally underhanded enough to play the system and suck out every benefit they can from it. Why not, it is so easy for them?



Well it really kind of is, as people in 3rd world nations and their supporters use this as a vehicle to justify why they should be allowed to migrate.



My fault........ you are right. I'm still a rookie



Do black people study anything anymore besides black studies? Its like their whole agenda nowadays is just majoring in 'being black,.' Its kind of pathetic actually.

I'd like to see Caucasian studies, Occidental studies, and stuff like that begin to be accepted in academia, but for obvious reasons I doubt you'll see that.

All of these 'black studies' professors just study being black, and continue to propegate their own exceptionalism and 'oppressed minority' conviction. They should just get over themselves already. Besides bitching about slavery and demanding welfare and social services, what do they do to actually be a boon to the community that doesn't involve financing their pet projects with taxpayer money?

About as absurd as their ideas that Ebonics should be its own language, etc, etc..

For a fun game, try and list things as useless as a Black Studies professor: I'll start..... An empty can of paint, banana peels, a soiled diaper.......

I use an empty can of paint to store paint-brushes. You can smoke banana peels or do all this:

http://www.rd.com/home-garden/9-extraor ... 23748.html

And diapers? Well, if you use cloth ones you can re-use them, and if not..well they do now make compostable ones....

Your things aren't useless enough, or your professor is more useful than you think.

thank you, i stand corrected. american is more evolved and more supportive of its people than i had imagined!