Bible - Great threat to morality?

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As we all know, the Bible is full of passages telling people to unquestionably trust whatever "God" (or, whoever the Bible tells them is God) tells them to do. The would-be sacrifice of Isaac is a testament to the precept "however morally wrong it seems to your conscience, just trust God!! !!"

The Bible, thus, is a deep cultural originator of the "Just Following Orders" excuse, which has undermines the potency of many individuals' moral consciences.

Therefore, the Bible is a threat to individual and societal morality.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHGEELdSHHc[/youtube]





Thank goodness few people read that book!

hahahahahahaha

<3 biblical silliness.

Ha!

Here's another Biblical story contrasted with modern attitudes:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rywVlfTtlMY[/youtube]

Master_Pedant posted (in part): As we all know, the Bible is full of passages telling people to unquestionably trust whatever "God" (or, whoever the Bible tells them is God) tells them to do. The would-be sacrifice of Isaac is a testament to the precept "however morally wrong it seems to your conscience, just trust God!! !!" The Bible, thus, is a deep cultural originator of the "Just Following Orders" excuse, which has undermines the potency of many individuals' moral consciences. Therefore, the Bible is a threat to individual and societal morality...Thank goodness few people read that book!
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Is the Bible a book about how morals can be defined? Yes. Is the Bible regularly twisted by major non-profit religions to justify what they do which is not Biblical at all? Yes. The word - morality - today (year 2010) means very little since many professionals/businesses have so called codes of conduct or ethics which simply do not match much at all anything which comes from the Bible. In the real world of everyday business, businesses can break laws and discard Biblical principles and the outcomes are often along the lines of a secular legal settlement which fines one party with the stipulation that the guilty party will not admit they are guilty at all - they just pay a fine and it's business/business morality as usual the next day. In terms of the morality of the Bible, the book - Pilgrim's Progress by John Bunyan - tends to be pretty black and white about it, however, operas and some retellings of the Pilgrim's Progress often water down what John Bunyan wrote. Recently, Bush, Jr. - a known Bible thumper and an open lover of Jesus Christ - his hero - from Texas - expressed his (Bush, Jr.'s) personal view how great waterboarding (torture) was for the USA during the Iraq/Afghanistan Wars. So much for morality and the Bush, Jr. Republican White House/its definition of Biblical morality (Jesus Christ promotes torture campaign). Is the Bible a great threat to morality or are the Bible thumpers the great threat to morality?

GIGO

Ain't logic wonderful?

@Asp-Z

thank you for stabbing me in my already weak time-management skills.

"sammy lovers" hahahahahahaha

Didn't God also stop Abraham from killing his son?

So? The Principle is the same, it would've been morally justified for him to have murdered his son because God said so and it was only bad because God flip-flopped faster than Kerry at the last minute. It sets a dangerous precedent - trust what you hear as "God" over and beyond whatever your conscience tells you.

Imagine a paranoid schizophrenic hears "God" tell him to kill their child - they're BIBLICAL precedent for it!! !

^^^ Which is why the Bible - especially the Old Testament - is an evil book.

I believe this video is also somewhat relevant to the OP:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_pjOjjE_v0[/youtube]

Or God had absolutely no intention for the child to be killed in the first place. In fact if you look at the idea if Jesus was God's son, then it could be Abraham proving his commitment to God. Jesus's sacrifice was God's commitment to humans. Jesus was however able to return from the dead whereas Abraham's son would not have.

There is no precident in the Bible because an Angel stopped Abraham and delivered a pretty concrete statement that he was not to hurt the child.

Blaming the Bible on the actions of a schizophrenic is also kinda stupid because they aren't exactly in their right mind and if one trigger doesn't cause them to perform the act you are mentioning another will.

Do you have some sort of personal animousity towards Jewish people and Christians?

that's part of what we're laughing at.

since you can't be arsed to actually watch the video your commenting on, maybe you could try just tuning in at about 2 minutes in where the crazyguy's coworker busts out the bible to explain that.

ffs, he even reads straight out of the damn book.

the video ends with the question "what kind of deity is impressed by his followers' willingness to murder their own children?"

and the second video points out the racist overtones of the parable of "the good samaritan."

when you point out that god stepped in and stopped abraham from killing isaac, you ignore the part where god told abraham to kill his son and then rewarded him for being willing to do so.

do you even care that what you say exposes your opposition to the idea of "biblical morality" even as you strive, so stridently, to denounce the idea of morality coming from any other source?

Another example of Biblical dogma above rational thought or conscience:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwcsiexx0h4[/youtube]

how is hallucinating god's voice in your head distinguishable from actually hearing god's voice in your head?

Yet God regarded the willingness to disregard one's conscience when it comes to murdering children as a sufficient fealty test



Actually, its the whole point of "proving one's commitment to God" by wilfully ignoring your conscience that I'm taking issue with here.



The whole sadomasochistic Christ/Spirit/Father myth is really out of scope for this discussion.



Yes, but if the Angel didn't do that, then it would have been OKAY. That's the dangerous precedent, the "just following Divine Orders" precedent.



The problem is that the though-experimental schizophrenic has the same personal apparent information as Abraham did.

A) Some voice calling itself "God" demands that I murder my child.
B) My conscience says it's bad.
C) But one must always obey God above conscience, as the Bible taught me that. If anything is bad with this, an Angel will intervene.



I do have a problem with the cultural pollutants Abrahamism has unleashed into the collective memosphere. Plus, I have to unseat AG.

you're running a fair campaign, although you might look into upping your ad budget. i hear (from a voice in my head) AG is planning to reveal himself as the One True Prophet of All Powerful Atheismo on december 32nd, just 8 days after he eats the baby jesus for chistmas dinner.

christianity: if it had more substance, jesus would be a whole meal instead of a crappy little cracker.

As someone with Celiac, I'm glad I was never raised in a Catholic household.

IT'S NOT FLESH, YOU MORON PRIESTS, IT'S STILL FLOUR!! !

When it comes to the campaign, all I have to do is consistently keep turning out threads like these before the June 2011 election and I'm sure to be at a strong advantage point. I think I'm the only competent challenger ever since Sand stopped posting regularly.