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13 Oct 2010, 11:45 pm

At what point will African-Americans be "equal" and "advanced" enough to where the NAACP no longer serves a purpose and can be disbanded?

Hypothetically, if the USA had a black president, 4 black Supreme Court justices, and 65% of congress qualified for the Black Caucus, would they then feel empowered enough to contract their own advocacy organization? By that time, their rhetoric may seem superfluous.

Also, at what point do White Americans have to "voluntarily" share or relinquish enough power to have a theoretical "NAAWP" formed and be accepted by the mainstream national consensus? The hypothetical NAAWP would be legitimized as a lobbyist organization and be allowed representatives in national media forums.

Personally, I think that even if 100% of Congress and the Supreme Court was black, and black culture dominated the country, they would still never give up their advocacy organizations.

What would be the numerical target criteria (average income, education level, political representation) for blacks to hit, to where vocal black advocacy groups would no longer be socially acceptable........... in the same manner that white advocacy groups are not accepted on the grounds that whites are already 'too dominant' in the country?

It can surely be argued, (actually its a fact,) that in many ways blacks are already "more equal" in this country than any other race.



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13 Oct 2010, 11:51 pm

as long as there is one hater in power somewhere, there will continue to be a need for a bulwark against same. i'm a biblical illiterate but it says in there somewhere something about how the sins of the father are visited upon the sons to the third generation. we as a nation have not yet reached the third generational point where we can say there is nobody who is maliciously prejudiced against people of color. it is one thing to not like folk of a different shade, but quite another to actively work to make life harder for such folk.



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13 Oct 2010, 11:57 pm

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as long as there is one hater in power somewhere, there will continue to be a need for a bulwark against same. i'm a biblical illiterate but it says in there somewhere something about how the sins of the father are visited upon the sons to the third generation. we as a nation have not yet reached the third generational point where we can say there is nobody who is maliciously prejudiced against people of color. it is one thing to not like folk of a different shade, but quite another to actively work to make life harder for such folk.


^ If this is the case, I would suggest then forming an 'NAAWP,' to proactively and preventatively guard against any future "reverse racism" or such things.



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14 Oct 2010, 12:12 am

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I would suggest then forming an 'NAAWP,' to proactively and preventatively guard against any future "reverse racism" or such things.


what is the klan if not a national association of white people?



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14 Oct 2010, 12:13 am

NAACP=Nigerians Against All Caucasian People.

And yes, there is a difference between Nigerians and decent respectable black people.


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14 Oct 2010, 12:25 am

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At what point will African-Americans be "equal" and "advanced" enough to where the NAACP no longer serves a purpose and can be disbanded?

When questions like that are no longer being asked.

My mother was born in Nigeria, in a little town called "Zuru" ... but none of that has anything to do with anything here.

My neighbor across the street is from Nigeria, but neither does that have anything to do with anything here.

Almost 20 years ago, my father-in-law complained a bit when blacks began moving into this neighborhood ... and having just moved here myself a few months ago, my wife and I are now the only whites on this street!

But of course, neither does any of that have anything to do with anything here. I just posted to see whether my theory is correct that I kill more threads around here than anyone else.


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14 Oct 2010, 12:26 am

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At what point will African-Americans be "equal" and "advanced" enough to where the NAACP no longer serves a purpose and can be disbanded?


Sorry to eliminate the rest of your post but I think the initial question itself is very poignant and deserves a direct addressing without the additional stipulations and implications.

At what point would such a group be irrelevant by the pure numbers generated by polls? How would the mainstream media play a part in what defines their opinions*?

As far as sharing/relinquishing their wealth....why would they be exempt from the normal tax structures? Because of charity loopholes in tax law? Then just close those loopholes without exception.

As far as advocacy groups are concerned: this will be a question answered in the next 20 years or so as blacks and hispanics take the physical majority of the population. The question then becomes how general population politics will change at that point on forward and with the current rhetoric, I wouldn't be surprised if the conservative movement stays roughly where it is or moves farther to the right and drags the rest of the national political game farther to the right in the process.

You'll probably still "lose" in the end but since you're looking at the problem incorrectly from the start of your troubles, you'll never be able to properly assess the issue(s) at hand and will continue to lose more while others take advantage of your simplistic beliefs.


*I ask this because most media currently reinforces a concept that most african americans are bad people who do bad things so assumedly when such people gain the majority in influence such concepts would not only end but raw numbers would indicate the opposite...meaning that more whites were incarcerated on minor offenses than minorities. And obviously if the media had more advertisement capital to gain from minorities (since they weren't wasting their money on litigation and fines), they wouldn't be portrayed so negatively.


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14 Oct 2010, 12:29 am

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what is the klan if not a national association of white people?


The Klan is a fringe group with no lobbying power, no national forum, they aren't permitted on mainstream media networks, etc. The 'Klan' is on "the outs" from the national consensus by a fair degree. They are in a state of complete disregard. The NAACP by contrast is completely tolerated as a legit organization and gets to air their voice on any pertinent issues regularly on the mainstream news-networks.

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Almost 20 years ago, my father-in-law complained a bit when blacks began moving into this neighborhood ... and having just moved here myself a few months ago, my wife and I are now the only whites on this street!


Definitely alot of similar stories....... hmmmm



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14 Oct 2010, 12:32 am

John_Browning wrote:
NAACP=Nigerians Against All Caucasian People.

And yes, there is a difference between Nigerians and decent respectable black people.

Why don't you just use the word you really want to use? Are people paying attention to this?



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14 Oct 2010, 12:44 am

marshall wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
NAACP=Nigerians Against All Caucasian People.

And yes, there is a difference between Nigerians and decent respectable black people.

Why don't you just use the word you really want to use? Are people paying attention to this?



I've been around here long enough to know who means what without having to point out and assume the nasty incivilities that people really mean in their choice of words.


/the racists here aren't hard to pick out after a few months of actually reading what everyone has to say
//but there are still a couple borderline racists who default to racists merely because they are white and don't know any better...but those are easy to separate from the core group of racists


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14 Oct 2010, 1:04 am

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*I ask this because most media currently reinforces a concept that most african americans are bad people who do bad things so assumedly when such people gain the majority in influence such concepts would not only end but raw numbers would indicate the opposite...meaning that more whites were incarcerated on minor offenses than minorities.


If you think a minority-majority America is going to be one where White Americans such as yourself will be targeted for incarceration for "minor offenses" at a high rate, than why don't you fight the demographic trend with all your power? I assume you don't want to live in a future where you are constantly accosted by Black and Hispanic 'cops' who are seeking to 'get even,' and handing out DWWs like candy. Do you think that they will somehow single you out from all of the other 'evil whites,' and remember that you were that guy defending them on the internet when you get pulled over for your DWW?

You seem to agree with me that in a minority-dominated America, that whites will be overly stigmatized, to say the least by a culture that is black and hispanic dominated. Why do you seemingly condone our descent into this? I have no doubt that many whites will indeed by incarcerated for "minor offenses" on the most trivial pretext, and suffer all sorts of indignaties. I think a minority-majority America will be a horrendous place to live for Whites, to say the least. Any speculation I have on the "reverse racism" that will be carried out would really only be the tip of the iceberg.

I don't understand why more whites don't see the writing on the wall and fight back? You seem to suggest that after 2042, blacks and hispanics will use their leverage to absolutely 'influence such concepts' in the manner they see fit.



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14 Oct 2010, 1:06 am

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As far as advocacy groups are concerned: this will be a question answered in the next 20 years or so as blacks and hispanics take the physical majority of the population.

I thought we whites were already the minority in that sense, but maybe I am wrong.

As an aside: It has been interesting to notice how comparatively little racism I see here in the South after having moved from the North just a few months ago.


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14 Oct 2010, 1:18 am

leejosepho wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
As far as advocacy groups are concerned: this will be a question answered in the next 20 years or so as blacks and hispanics take the physical majority of the population.

I thought we whites were already the minority in that sense, but maybe I am wrong.

As an aside: It has been interesting to notice how comparatively little racism I see here in the South after having moved from the North just a few months ago.



In terms of raw numbers, whites are still in the majority and still vastly in the voting majority.

As far as racism in the north versus the south goes: I think it still goes a little more toward the south but it's more tolerable here because people don't BS you in between about how they really feel. It still screws with education and the overall bottom line, though.


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14 Oct 2010, 1:38 am

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*I ask this because most media currently reinforces a concept that most african americans are bad people who do bad things so assumedly when such people gain the majority in influence such concepts would not only end but raw numbers would indicate the opposite...meaning that more whites were incarcerated on minor offenses than minorities.


Its worth reading again..............

According to a rabid leftist................. Whites are naturally going to commit 'minor offenses' at a higher rate than minorities. Whites are apparently more crime-prone than minorities. Don't know where this nonsense comes from.

In a minority-majority America, whites will be demonized by a media dominated by blacks and mexicans.

In a minority-majority America, whites will be incarcerated on minor crimes at a much higher rate than they are at present............... (i.e, DWWs, arbitrary arrests, random police-thug abuse of whites, all sorts of indignities.)

Your suburban home will probably get repossessed and redistributed as well to some Section 8-ers, who will destroy the house promptly the way Peter the Great destroyed English Mansions.

This is just the tip of the iceberg for what it will be like for Whites to live in America after 2042.............. especially a very unfriendly national media heaping all sorts of indignities on whites(they already do this now actually.)

The liberals themselves let on to the top bit of abuse that they know whites will face deep down by black and mexican 'activists' who are just looking to 'get even.' But yet they take the chance and support the demographic change anyway. Moderates and conservatives condone it. Why would they want to even live in such an America? Do they think the thug-cops a few decades from now will know their faces from their internet posts and recall that they were not a 'Mr. Charlie,' and let them pass after getting pulled over for a DWW? I don't think so.

No, they'd rather take their chance on the spoonfed and contrived "color me human" propganda, even though black and Mexican leaders really don't acknowledge this with a whiff at present. White people are the only race in America that doesn't put their own interests first or even give a damn about the welfare of any other race.

I bet any white with decent employment, especially in the civil service with such a job as a Policeman, will be visited one day by a delegation of Black 'politicians." They will tell him that Tyrone, the former burger-king fry-hop, is now the police officer. They will say that he is only unintelligent because he was "denied opportunities." It will be a massive farce.

Of course, white liberals support a world in which they will be targeted and abused. Why wouldn't they? Yes, its our turn to be third class citizens.

My only guess is that white liberals somehow think that the new black regime will somehow "leave a seat open for them." HA ! ! Blacks spit on weak white liberals. They have no respect for them at all. They think absolutely nothing of them. I think white liberals think they will somehow have some kind of mark on them, and only thsoe suburban hoity-toity whites will bear the brunt of the "change."

Even if blacks allow them to live, I certainly don't think even white "liberals" will still be allowed to function in society on any equal terms. Then again, I don't even think a society run by blacks would function for a decade before it became complete anarchy.

Anyway, my leftist friend just gave a bit preview of what it will be like for whites to live in such an America. Can you imagine turning on the TV, and 85 of 90 channels are BET-clone networks, with announcers broadcasting in unintelligible-ebonics-jibberish? I guess the benefit would be that even if they wanted to paint a "negative image" of whites, no one would even understand WTF he was saying anyway..........



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14 Oct 2010, 1:52 am

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In a minority-majority America, whites will be demonized by a media dominated by blacks and mexicans.


So what you're saying is that the majority will persecute the minority the same as the current majority persecutes the current minority.

The obvious way out is to solve this majority persecution against minority issue. Your viewpoint, however, is obstructive to this ultimate goal.


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14 Oct 2010, 1:59 am

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So what you're saying is that the majority will persecute the minority the same as the current majority persecutes the current minority.

The obvious way out is to solve this majority persecution against minority issue. Your viewpoint, however, is obstructive to this ultimate goal.

You are saying that the black and Mexican media magnates are going to in some way advertise their racial superiority over whites. Blacks and Mexicans will advertise themselvs as 'better than.'........... both by building themselves up and denigrating whites as sub-human fodder.

And anyway, to state that the current majority(whites) 'persecutes' the current minority is laughable and ridiculous..........

All that ever happens is Fox News occasionaly reports actual instances of black crimes as it happens. I mean, I'm sorry the blacks had to commit crimes and stain themselves. Its not "Racist" that Fox may actually dare to broadcast the actual event of some black person committing a crime, the reality of the ghetto, or a shooting on MLK avenue.

Besides that, white people go out of their way to build blacks up as much as possible. I mean, can you give some media examples of how blacks get so persecuted by whites these days?

Hell, CNN even aired a show called "Black in America," where blacks do nothing but sit about and vent for an hour. Whites go out of their way to accommodate every whim of every minority.

As far as fictional portrayals and stereotypes go, pretty much every televison program and current film displays the black character as the "Alpha Male," with the white characters as the comic-relief goofballs. In virtually every contemporary sitcom, the minorit(ies) are the "straight-shooters," with the white males beeing the goober idiots who create the comical-situations.

Your idea that there is any anti-minority bias in the media is nonsense. In fact, all electronic mass-media is the most pro-minority institution in this country.