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Do you believe the Bible is Divinely inspired
Yes; it is the literal word of God 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
No; it is a complete and utter fabrication 17%  17%  [ 7 ]
Yes; it is divinely inspired but interpreted by humans and therefore imperfect 10%  10%  [ 4 ]
Yes; but much has been lost in translation and interference but in essence it is true 14%  14%  [ 6 ]
No; it is just a vague and loose record of Middle Eastern history with some interesting embellishments 57%  57%  [ 24 ]
Total votes : 42

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20 Jan 2009, 3:51 am

Do you believe that the bible is divinely inspired. Virulent atheists please try to refrain from flaming


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20 Jan 2009, 5:08 am

I can't vote as my choice is not up there. So I will post it below.


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20 Jan 2009, 5:24 am

Shiggily wrote:
I can't vote as my choice is not up there. So I will post it below.


-Possibly


Seconded. I wasn't there, how can I know what it is or isn't? Even then, how could I tell I wasn't hallucinating what I saw?



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20 Jan 2009, 9:39 am

In First Corinthians, chapter 13, verse 12, the Apostle Paul wrote:
For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known.

We see the Word of God dimly, in a mirror. We see it as a reflection through the prophets and the apostles, not face-to-face with the direct Word of God. We have only an imperfect knowledge of the Lord.


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20 Jan 2009, 10:00 am

i've never read the bible and don't plan to. why don't they put the author or authors name on the bible? i have read "the book of mormon" by joseph smith and "dianetics" by l. ron hubbard. "the book of mormon" isn't that good and kind of silly. "dianetics" is silly but a good read.


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20 Jan 2009, 10:08 am

Dokken wrote:
i've never read the bible and don't plan to. why don't they put the author or authors name on the bible? i have read "the book of mormon" by joseph smith and "dianetics" by l. ron hubbard. "the book of mormon" isn't that good and kind of silly. "dianetics" is silly but a good read.


it has multiple authors and much of it was passed down orally.


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20 Jan 2009, 10:37 am

Orwell wrote:
In First Corinthians, chapter 13, verse 12, the Apostle Paul wrote:
For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known.

We see the Word of God dimly, in a mirror. We see it as a reflection through the prophets and the apostles, not face-to-face with the direct Word of God. We have only an imperfect knowledge of the Lord.


Agreed.

The message is perfect, but the medium isn't.



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20 Jan 2009, 10:42 am

Orwell wrote:
In First Corinthians, chapter 13, verse 12, the Apostle Paul wrote:
For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known.

We see the Word of God dimly, in a mirror. We see it as a reflection through the prophets and the apostles, not face-to-face with the direct Word of God. We have only an imperfect knowledge of the Lord.


And that's why there are so many different religions.



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20 Jan 2009, 10:54 am

IF the Bible is the Word of God, then what evidence is there to back up the assertion?

Note that I'm not saying that the Bible is not the Word of God, as that would be a claim that I'd have to defend. I am merely asking for Evidence, Please?


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20 Jan 2009, 10:56 am

I like today's sig, Fnord.


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20 Jan 2009, 11:15 am

The old testament was written in the 5th century BC and the first chapters were just some obsurd propaganda. The first book Genesis is all just myth based on the pagan myths of the ancient Babylonians of the 5th century. If that was the literal word of God then it would have mentioned the Big Bang, Evolution and said that man is just an ape, asteroid impacts, volcanic eruptions etc as modern science would dictate but it does not. The New testament was a bit believable than the old The Star over Bethlehem a part of the Christmas story was in fact a supernova and the site is marked by a neutron star Heaven and Hell to me are parallel Universes just two of an infinite series of them. Some of the New Testament was inspired by magic mushroom taking and other shamanistic insights



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20 Jan 2009, 11:21 am

Fnord wrote:
IF the Bible is the Word of God, then what evidence is there to back up the assertion?

Note that I'm not saying that the Bible is not the Word of God, as that would be a claim that I'd have to defend. I am merely asking for Evidence, Please?


Get used to asking for Evidence, Please 'cause you're never going to find what you're looking for. No one can give you Evidence Please. It's like other kinds of wisdom which can never be given, only experienced.

So enough with the Evidence Please.



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20 Jan 2009, 11:25 am

slowmutant wrote:
Fnord wrote:
IF the Bible is the Word of God, then what evidence is there to back up the assertion?

Note that I'm not saying that the Bible is not the Word of God, as that would be a claim that I'd have to defend. I am merely asking for Evidence, Please?

Get used to asking for Evidence, Please 'cause you're never going to find what you're looking for. No one can give you Evidence Please. It's like other kinds of wisdom which can never be given, only experienced.

So enough with the Evidence Please.

Translation: "Shut up - I don't have to prove anything to you."

... same as every church and seminary I've ever attended.


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20 Jan 2009, 11:32 am

slowmutant wrote:
Get used to asking for Evidence, Please 'cause you're never going to find what you're looking for. No one can give you Evidence Please. It's like other kinds of wisdom which can never be given, only experienced.


There is nothing out which can be only "experienced". Everything is measurable and follows the rules of physics, described in the language of mathematics.

Even a so-called "spiritual experience" is at the end nothing more than a biochemical reaction in our brains, measurable in a MRI-scan, manipulable with a some mg or even µg of some substances.



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20 Jan 2009, 11:53 am

Dussel wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
Get used to asking for Evidence, Please 'cause you're never going to find what you're looking for. No one can give you Evidence Please. It's like other kinds of wisdom which can never be given, only experienced.


There is nothing out which can be only "experienced". Everything is measurable and follows the rules of physics, described in the language of mathematics.

Then show me the physics of poetry, art, and music. And no, not a description of the physics of sound waves. Mathematically prove to me the worth of Dvorak's 9th Symphony.

Math is beautiful and useful. Physics also is beautiful and useful. But neither of these are everything. There is more to the world, and not all of it can be so coldly quantified.


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