Ultraconservatives pretend homophobia/racism doesn't exist

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After decades of deliberately fuelling the fires of racial hatred and homophobia (the Southern Strategy, the notoriously anti-gay campaigns of the Republicans against letting gays serve in the military, and George W. Bush's 2004 campaign), movement ultraconservatives now seem to be denying that these awful prejudices exist. Or, worse, proport some sort of false equivalency between racism against blacks (which has real, strong, powerful, systemic consequences) to phenomena of marginal influence - such as some resentment of minorities in the underclass against Whites or the backlash against bigoted fundamentalist Christians for their decades of open homophobia.

It sort of reminds me of Neo-Nazis. Neo-Nazis like to deny antisemitism ever occured or compare it to the "oppression" they suffer from due to Jewish civil rights groups pont out their ignorance and bigotry. The implicit reason for this Neo-Nazi denial is because they want antisemitism to resume. Likewise, ultraconservatives deny racism against minorities and homophobia because they want it to continue. And, come to think of it, like the Neo-Nazis who deny the effects of their anti-semitism, the ultraconservatives deny the existence of racism while displaying it.

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i wouldn't want to be them when they eventually meet their maker. of course they conveniently disbelieve in an existence after their deaths, all the better for them to escape the consequences of their evil acts in life. but i call this denial, "whistling past the graveyard."

The afterlife is probably a crock of shoot, so I'm not so optimistic that the ultraconservatives will face cosmic justice in the end. The worse the GOP will probably experience is a decade or so out of power if ethnic minorities ever become the majority. I know that right now some GOP operatives are trying to attract gay voters using fear ("The GOP is the only party that will protect gays from the worst antigay force out there - radical Islam!! !"). I don't have my hopes up, though, as the electorate tends to be very myopic, especially in America (where there are few mass mobilizing organizations to inform voters on the issues).

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What's with the twitter picture?

To all the visual thinkers out there, it conveys the profound irony of denying that racism against blacks exists while displaying it. Exactly what the ultraconservatives do.

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Maybe I am tired, but I am just not getting it. I am pretty sure you aren't Andrea Pernici, so I am confused.

Major Thesis of OP: Ultraconservatives like to claim racism doesn't exist while displaying it.

Image: Ultraconservative activists (Tea Partisans) are claiming they aren't racist while holding up racist signs.

Hating the practice of homosexuality is Biblical. Romans chapter 1 says not to approve of homosexuality, and if a straight friend approves of it, don't approve of that either (naturally this is condensed and paraphrased). 1 Corinthians (I don't have the verse handy) Basically says you can associate with homosexuals (but not approve of the practice) as long as they don't claim to be Christian. The two groups are mutually exclusive. If a christian had a friend that drank way too much or recreationally used drugs, or slept around a lot or had new age beliefs or experimented with the occult (socializing with people involved in the occult is heavily discouraged), you would be friends with the person but keep your distance from the self-destructive activities they were involved in. The same applies to having gay friends. Personally, I believe that if ancient Israel had any significant gay community that Jesus would have spent a considerable amount of time ministering to them the way he did with the tax collectors, pharisees, and sinners.

As for race issues, I think it would be necessary to treat it like a spectrum with people who find behaviors of other ethnic groups on one end and waging an active campaign of physical abuse against ethnic groups on the other. I think the dividing line as far as final judgment is concerned is whether or not the person is consumed by hate. Personally I think that is a matter that mainly racist militant groups (of all colors) need to worry about. As most of you know by now I have my own issues regarding race. When I was young I was raised with very little to no indoctrination on issues regarding race. I learned the views I have today from growing up having to deal with the minority groups that act antisocial and then call for tolerance. As far as this relates to the Bible, I do need to address my anger towards other races because it can potentially blow up into a problem that negatively impacts my quality of life again, but unfortunately the local minority groups REALLY aren't helping me with this.

If you did more research you would know that the racist signs are few and far between (and often held up by liberal infiltrators), and that Tea Party organizers encourage demonstrators to try and talk other demonstrators out of displaying racist signs.

That was more of a comical illustration of the point, rather than evidence of it. The polls on the racial attitudes of Tea Partisans are more than enough to warrant the actual charges of racism.

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i didn't realize other people noticed that! we have commenters who keep saying over and over that racism doesn't exist, or that reverse racism is just as bad, and they turn out to be.... drum roll please.... racist! (or anti-muslim. i don't have a succint word for that though).

It's great to see acknowledgement of the rule conservative Christianity plays in bigotry against homosexuality. I love to see how you're pretty much on the losing side of history, to be swept away in the tide of increasing civilizing of the human species. Reactionary, throwback attitudes like this will forever tar the Southern Baptists and other religious bigots.

Nice on comparing loving same-sex relationships to drug addiction, by the way.

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I'm not surprised this is happening. I've known it would for more than 10 years now. It has been expected for a long time. It's frustrating but history will take it's course and all will eventually be made right.

Perhaps my perspective is a little different then yours for 3 reasons:

1) I grew up in Canada. While problems with poverty (especially in the neighborhood I grew up in, which was the second poorest in the nation) are apparent, they aren't as bad as Canada has a marginally better social safety net.
2) My father was an ethnic minority (an aboriginal Canadian, to be specific - of the Dene Nation) annd hence I am part Dene (my skin is pretty white but some have told me that the key tell I'm a Native North American from some of my facial features). I also got to witness some examples of racist treatment of minorities, even though I was too young and socially naive to realize it at the time.
3) As I said, I lived in a poor area during my childhood and went to a school filled with poor children. Any dumbass moves I saw minorities do I equally saw underclass whites engage in. Furthermore, some of the most hard-working people I knew were Filipino Canadians.

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I guess you have a better underclass than what there is here, and a safety net doesn't necessarily have much to do with it because some of the minorities I have a problem with are lower middle class too.

The Lower Middle Class in the USA is also pretty financial insecure and squeezed. The whole economic system is a lot more unstable then in most developed countries.

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