Jesus the Messiah?

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I was unaware of the reasons why Jews refute Cristian claims that Jesus son of Joseph was the messiah. After looking up the arguments it seems plain to me that Jesus does not fulfill the prophecies that would allow Christians to correctly claim what they do.

This site gives a very concise version of the arguments http://www.religionfacts.com/jesus/messiah.htm

So at face value it seems to me that Christians have been worshiping an imposter.

Thoughts on this, anyone?

Bias?

Well, Jesus as the historical figure is thought to never have actually claimed divinity. His references to being the "son of god" is equivalent to the teachings of many different eastern beliefs that each person carries the divine within them, that Jesus was saying "I am the son of god, as are we all sons and daughters of the divine." There is strong evidence that Jesus' "missing years" were him doing what many prophets of the time did, traveling to the east to learn the mystic healing methods and herbal studies of the East.

Many of the prophecies were not fulfilled by Jesus. However, that did not stop many scholars of the day from trying to match the stories of "the christ" or what Judaic prophets had predicted to the person known as "Jesus." Beyond that, the modern incarnation of the "Bible" was written by people who assumed the names of the disciples to give their points of view credibility. If you study it historically, all of the manifestations of modern Christianity are based off of forgeries.

However, that does not invalidate that the person known as Jesus had reasonable teachings that should be evaluated and potentially followed.

I am of the opinion that there are prophets but there is no physical Messiah as no one person can embody the energy and knowledge of eternity of everything and still exist corporeally. Beyond that, no matter how true the teachings are of a Messiah (if he/she existed), people are bound by their habits and comforting illusions and would likely destroy the individual, commit them, or simply ignore them meaning there would be no significant change in "the whole world."

Zoroaster is my messiah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroaster

Yes, this is really true. Jesus doesn't fulfill prophecies. Prophecies in the New Testament are often made-up from poor readings of the Old Testament. I mean, it is that simple. Heck, essential Jewish doctrines are kind of trampled by Christianity to end up requiring that all nations repent or suffer an eternity of hell. From what I understand, Jews consider the Jewish faith to be a Jewish requirement, and hold other peoples to a more moderate standard for their salvation.

As for Leejosepho's claim. I really don't want to get into the trinity debate. I think there is evidence supporting Leejosepho, if one holds the beliefs of the Ebionites as more likely to match the earliest believers: http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.c ... esses.html . However, one could still make counter-arguments within scripture, and many do. I'd hold that an incarnation is incoherent, for a large number of reasons.

I think it is worth pointing out that the arguments on the link only made a counterarguments against Jesus being the Messiah, but not making any of the rather convincing arguments for Jesus being the Messiah. If this were a truly balanced debate, both sides would have been presented.

I Disagree, the argument you put forward would require more than a simple article that compares and contrasts claims.

The case for the divinity of Jesus is here

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/jesus_ ... inity.html

The case for the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies is here

http://www.cbcg.org/franklin/SA/SA_fullfilllaw.pdf

I am not sure about your article on prophecy fulfillment as highly relevant. It doesn't seem to address major issues about what prophecies and what fulfillment. The New Testament itself contains prophecies it claims to fulfill, but these are false. Even further, I am not sure that there is any clear sign of prophecy fulfillment that you are providing.