Atheists face a year in prison for disbelief in U.S state

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07 Dec 2012, 6:49 am

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http://www.examiner.com/article/kentucky-atheists-face-12-months-prison-for-disbelief

A Kentucky law requires residents and government officials to affirm the existence of God, or risk a penalty of up to 12 months in prison for failure to comply.

The Kentucky law requires that plaques celebrating the power of the Almighty God be installed outside the state Homeland Security building. The text of the inscription on the plaques begins with the assertion, “The safety and security of the Commonwealth cannot be achieved apart from reliance upon Almighty God.”

The law is part of a Kentucky state homeland security bill that passed in 2008.


Shocking. Absolutely shocking and unbelievable. This is the sort of thing you'd expect to see during medieval Europe during the persecution of non-believers, or in Christian and Islamic theocracies today. Disgraceful.



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07 Dec 2012, 7:06 am

Wow! That is the sort of "law" I'd expect from the Taliban.


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07 Dec 2012, 7:19 am

TallyMan wrote:
Wow! That is the sort of "law" I'd expect from the Taliban.


The Christian Taliban. Makes your heart sink with this medievalist authoritarianism, don't it.



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07 Dec 2012, 7:36 am

US constitution, original text:

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.".

This is likely unconstitutional even *without* the 1st amendment.

Strict scrutiny, anyone?



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07 Dec 2012, 8:06 am

Agreed with GGPViper.

Something just doesn't make sense. Consider me very skeptical of this until confirmation.



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07 Dec 2012, 10:09 am

ONWARD!

To the Sixteenth Centurey!

Maybe theyll bring back the Inquisition too!



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07 Dec 2012, 10:16 am

Well that story is sort of inaccurate. It was clarified on another website

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...that the executive director of the Office of Homeland Security publish a reference to 'Almighty God' in regards to the 'safety and security of the Commonwealth,'" which appears as a plaque at the entrance of the Emergency Operations Center. Violating this law, or any other statues required by the Kentucky Division of Emergency Management, could result in being found guilty of a Class A misdemeanor, which carries a sentence of up to one year in jail...


So basically it is mandating DHS install a plaque proclaiming the power of an 'Almighty god' which is pretty ridiculous on its own but not quite outlawing atheism as this examiner article(which gets money per click btw) implies.

The guy who stuck that mandate into the law was Democratic state rep. Tom Riner for anybody that is curious. Kentucky democrats lay religion and social conservatism on thick as a means of staying relevant as they do all over the south. These are the same weirdos that thought claiming that Rand Paul believed in a false god called Aqua Buddha would get them votes. Anybody getting their hopes up for Hollywood star Ashley Judd becoming a senator in Kentucky anytime soon should probably temper their expectations. The fact she was born in California, lives in Tennessee part of the year(for tax purposes most likely), and Scotland the rest of the time probably wont help either.

But yea, speaking of unconstitutional, how about DHS as a whole? This seems like rather small potatoes when you look at the bigger picture.



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07 Dec 2012, 10:28 am

So, in a way, that website actually twisted some facts just to grab attention. And so all this drama was really unnecessary.

I hate when that happens.



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07 Dec 2012, 10:44 am

Tequila wrote:
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http://www.examiner.com/article/kentucky-atheists-face-12-months-prison-for-disbelief

A Kentucky law requires residents and government officials to affirm the existence of God, or risk a penalty of up to 12 months in prison for failure to comply.

The Kentucky law requires that plaques celebrating the power of the Almighty God be installed outside the state Homeland Security building. The text of the inscription on the plaques begins with the assertion, “The safety and security of the Commonwealth cannot be achieved apart from reliance upon Almighty God.”

The law is part of a Kentucky state homeland security bill that passed in 2008.


Shocking. Absolutely shocking and unbelievable. This is the sort of thing you'd expect to see during medieval Europe during the persecution of non-believers, or in Christian and Islamic theocracies today. Disgraceful.


Can you have so much as a -single- instance of anyone convicted and imprisoned under this law. Be specific. Give a reference from a public archive or official source.

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07 Dec 2012, 11:12 am

I'm going to try to find the bill itself online and make sense of all this.

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07 Dec 2012, 11:22 am

NAKnight wrote:
I'm going to try to find the bill itself online and make sense of all this.

Best Regards,

Jake


It is a ridiculous law. Has anyone been prosecuted or convicted under it?

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07 Dec 2012, 11:37 am

Ha ha, kentucky, what a terrible state.....I don't see who in their right mind would live there, and that was my opinion even before I saw this. Though I don't see any mention of anyone specifically getting arrested for it. Some laws exist but aren't really used or are now out of date so maybe its something like that.


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07 Dec 2012, 11:54 am

ruveyn wrote:
NAKnight wrote:
I'm going to try to find the bill itself online and make sense of all this.

Best Regards,

Jake


It is a ridiculous law. Has anyone been prosecuted or convicted under it?

ruveyn


From what I learned from American Government, Kentucky can create it own sets of laws and constitution and things of that nature.
Each State has it's own set of Laws, Codes, etc. I'm not agreeing with Kentucky on this issue, but they have the right under eminent domain.
I think the original post was misleading and instigating though.

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07 Dec 2012, 11:55 am

Meh. :shrug: There are all kinds of stupid laws still on the books that are clearly unconstitutional, and have never actually been enforced or tested.

It's against the law in my home state to whistle under water. Nobody's ever been arrested for it. If there were, that's a video I would love to see on youtube.


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07 Dec 2012, 12:03 pm

One of those stupid unenforced laws, there are websites filled with information about those.

However, i'm pretty sure the Tea Party/ American Taliban wants it kept on the book to keep atheists out of office because it's obvious that all atheists are left-wing Socialists/Nazis/Communist/ Fascists. :P


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07 Dec 2012, 12:06 pm

I wish people would read more the thread title and a couple lines of the first post.