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01 Dec 2010, 10:29 pm

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/blog/2010/12/details-revealed-for-kentuckys-ark-park.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cincinnati_blog+(CincyBiz+Blog)

Sure, it's technically legal, it'll create jobs and spark tourism-- but shouldn't it be privately funded rather than paid for with Kentuckians' tax dollars? It is promoting a specific religious ideology, after all-- why should Kentuckians who aren't Christian have to pay for something they don't believe in?



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01 Dec 2010, 10:31 pm

Meh, if it ever becomes non-profitable, they can always sell it to the private sector. =/



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01 Dec 2010, 10:51 pm

Ask Sand.

Me, I don't care for theme parks, I don't appreciate ANYBODY doing propaganda even disguised as art or entertainment, and I do not see how Disney World or a library for the Clinton papers or a museum honoring the heros of the Chicago Convention is a priority for government funds.

Not all of the Proxmire gripes were meritorious to my eye, but he did point out some problems with letting people spend other people's money without strict supervision.



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01 Dec 2010, 11:07 pm

Its not congress doing it. A state can establish a religion if it wants. Its a power the constitution allows for the states. If a Kentuckian doesn't like it they can move.

EDIT: Unless the Kentucky constitution prevents it but I'm Kansan so I don't know their constitution.



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01 Dec 2010, 11:13 pm

ikorack wrote:
A state can establish a religion if it wants.



It can't, actually. Because of the establishment clause of the first amendment and because the tenth amendment specifically says regarding matters that AREN'T covered in the constitution and the amendments, it's breaking one of the first established laws of this country.


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01 Dec 2010, 11:18 pm

skafather84 wrote:
ikorack wrote:
A state can establish a religion if it wants.



It can't, actually. Because of the establishment clause of the first amendment and because the tenth amendment specifically says regarding matters that AREN'T covered in the constitution and the amendments, it's breaking one of the first established laws of this country.


No it isn't. Congress shall make no law respecting or prohibiting yada yada. Unless somehow by using the singular form of congress they are making a reference to every legislative branch of each state that power is still allowed to the states.

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


^number 1

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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


number 10 ^ number 1 does not prohibit the states and the power isn't delegated to the federal level so the states do have the power unless their constitution has a clause that echoes the first amendment. This also works with the other protections of the first amendment