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02 Dec 2010, 2:37 pm

Can Christian TV survive the latest scandal from Daystar TV - Texas? There have been so many events in the world of Christianity recently from the European Pope hiding child crimes to the divorce proceedings of Benny Hinn and now the latest, the Marcus Lamb confession. Can Christianity survive today - year 2010?



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02 Dec 2010, 2:45 pm

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Can Christian TV survive the latest scandal from Daystar TV - Texas? There have been so many events in the world of Christianity recently from the European Pope hiding child crimes to the divorce proceedings of Benny Hinn and now the latest, the Marcus Lamb confession. Can Christianity survive today - year 2010?


Can Christian TV survive is totally different from your topic title. I never watched the Christian TV stuff to begin with.

Can Christianity as a whole survive, yes.



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02 Dec 2010, 7:37 pm

Agreed - TV? I don't watch it.

But Christ is living, and as long as there's one person in this world who belongs to him, the faith survives. Besides, if there ever were a time when nobody believed in him anymore, do you really think he would just let the world keep going that way? I mean we're talking about an all-powerful living being here who knows absolutely everything. The world could be pinched out of existence instantly if he felt like it, but he's not malicious like that ya know?

Now if Christianity were merely a philosophy or ideology or a belief in something that wasn't real, then yeah you could call its "survival" into question. I'm not worried ^_^



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02 Dec 2010, 8:02 pm

A more cogent question - can atheism survive long term?

But - to address the question straightforwardly - Christianity is too diverse and too wide spread to disappear quickly. Even with selective extermination.

Nothing to do with truth value of the faith or sophistication of the body - just the dynamic.

The 7th Day Adventists are still around. And Doukhobors and Karaites and Samaritans.



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02 Dec 2010, 8:11 pm

In short, yes. I mean, most people aren't going to leave because part of the church structure is local communities of believers. Once those start breaking down, then the religion will start dying. Those have not been pushed to the breaking point though.



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03 Dec 2010, 2:59 am

Christianity is 2000 years old. Judaism is older and Hinduism is older still.

I don't see any of them disappearing in the near future.



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03 Dec 2010, 5:01 am

Clearly, Christianity is...

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03 Dec 2010, 7:34 am

Should Christianity survive?

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03 Dec 2010, 9:00 am

ruveyn wrote:
Should Christianity survive?


I might be biased, but no.

Christianity meanwhile has too many followers and too many young people accepting it to die out any time quickly. Some forms may fade away, but others will rise in its place.

If it does die out, it might take hundreds of years and become blended with something else.



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03 Dec 2010, 10:54 am

It's a good business and if it failed all those unemployed priests and nuns would join all those others out of work. It would be a mess. As long as it's making money it has to survive.



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03 Dec 2010, 12:57 pm

Do you mean "Does the individual addressed want Christianity to fail"

[by which I assume you mean disapear, not just fall short of its goals]

Or do you mean "Is there a general objective standard by which Christianity ought to fail"?

Makes a difference.



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03 Dec 2010, 1:53 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Should Christianity survive?

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Today, there is modern Christianity which is pretty close to:

Child crimes are ok if one is the celebrity, politician Pope of Italy (Pope Benedict aka Pope Catholic Condoms Only) - no questions allowed - convert or die - by the way, the collection plate will be passed three times during the religious service today and the money sent to Rome.

Adultery is ok if one is the President of Daystar Christian TV (Marcus Lamb) - no questions allowed - God's money must be protected from extortionists. God's money or Marcus and Joni Lamb's annual salaries? Daystar shall continue with adulterers in charge and continue its mission of collecting money love gifts from Christian TV viewers.

Gay and lesbian bishops are fine (traditional Christianity is being discarded).

Christianity is surviving today (2010) simply using new rules.

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Even some Jewish seminaries have opened their doors in the United States to women to become rabbis and a few Jewish seminaries are ordaining gay and lesbian rabbis around the world - isn't that the way it is today - year 2010 - religion of (modern) Judaism?



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03 Dec 2010, 2:05 pm

It used to be the official position of established Christianity that the sun goes around the earth instead of vice versa. Eventually the weight of evidence forced them to admit their interpretation of the Bible had been wrong. While most mainstream Christian denominations today either accept evolution as an observed fact of nature or say it doesn't matter to their faith, a very vocal minority of Biblical literalists deny this fact. I don't mind what anyone believes until they try to dumb down everybody else's children in public schools. What they do brings no honor to God or Christ, and is also harmful to America and to humanity.

Eventually those denominations that deny the fact of evolution will either have to admit they were wrong about that or they will fade into obscurity as another failed crackpot lunatic fringe cult like the flat earthers. I hope to see this happen in my lifetime, but I'm not holding my breath.

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03 Dec 2010, 2:08 pm

TheBicyclingGuitarist wrote:
It used to be the official position of established Christianity that the sun goes around the earth instead of vice versa.


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03 Dec 2010, 11:47 pm

Well, Jesus said some good things, like "Love one another as you love yourself" and to feed the poor and to not be overly judgemental of others. I think there was plenty of good worth keeping around.



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03 Dec 2010, 11:48 pm

Christianity or some variation of it will exist till the end of humanity.


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