What is it with Regressive Conservatives anyways?

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NOTICE: This thread is a response that is (partially) tongue-in-cheek, against this thread: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt147319.html. Parrallel (and humorous) structure aside, their are substantive points about double-standards when it comes to noticing racial biases as well as ideological criticisms of modern American conservatism. This post also attempts to show how various parallels cliche centrists like to derive between "liberal MSNBC" and Fox aren't really that parallel at all, being at best tangent.

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Over the past five years in which I've engaged with American conservatives over the internet I've noticed quite a few ugly traits.

1. Deny Racism against minorities: Carrying signs saying somebody should "go back to Kenya", claiming that racial minorities are disproportionately filled with "lazy people", speculating on the basis of somebody's looks that they're a Kenyan-born Manchurian candidate, thinking that problems blacks face are "over-empthasized" ", and arguing for racial profiling all aren't "racism (Con Artists on Wrong Planet have argued such in the past). But adding an extra point on a quota system for a select subset of government jobs is "attrocious racism". The cruel irony is that the Regressive Right is only able to see racism (real or otherwise) when it's against Whites. If the Duke Lacrosse case involved an upper-middle class white woman accusing a poor, black man of rape, I doubt conservatives in the media would be making such a fuss about it, nonetheless writing books talking about how the case was "political correctness run amok". Yet there's numerous cases like this in the United States involving the wrongful convictions of racial minorities which get talked about much, much less.

2. Consistent Sycophancy for the Upper Class & hypocritical demonization of income equalitarians: As the hereditary rich get richer, in part thanks to government policies that redistribute income upwards, the Con-Artists of Wrong Planet through hissy-fits, calling the proponents of progressive taxation "victims". There's a disgusting irony to this, as many of these Con-Artists whine whenever a business tells employees not to wear politically polarizing, religious-based buttons. Many of these Con-Artists do, in fact, suffer a tremendous persecution complex, believing "happy holidays" to be indicative of their lose of rights as religious fundamentalists.

3. MSNBC Derangement syndrome: In between lauding a network that was crucial in leading America into a war that cost many lives, the Con-Artists take every chance they get to belittle MSNBC over the most trival of deals. These Con-Artists seem to forget that MSNBC, unlike Fox, has straight-news coverage through much of the day, wasn't explicitly designed by a billionaire to be a political propoganda outlet but rather acquired it's prime-time left tilt due to the bottom-up process of one anchor's phenomenal success demonstrating the virtues of positioning left, and doesn't give a million dollars directly to the DNC.

4. Keith Olbermann Derangement Syndrome: I could give generalized musings on how petty and deranged the Regressive Right is when it comes to Olbermann, but a snipet from one Rightwing Trash paper is more than enough to display the foaming at the mouth hatred the Con-Artists have against a man who was brave enough to denounce the Iraq War after it cost Phil Donoahue and Ashleigh Banfield their jobs with the supposedly "liberal" Network:

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/item_Ih ... B43EAD3901

Stay classy, New York Post.

Is it any wonder why the Con-Artists bemoan liberal "heavy handed tactics" so much? They're projecting and covering for themselves!

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Agreed. It seems many right wing Republicans base their opinions on ignorance and fear, and the commentators of Fox news make it worse by spreading lies and inciting hatred.

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This is too much partisan fodder for me, and I lean liberal. Polemics like this don't encourage the kind of reasoned debate Jon Stewart was asking for.

I find the kumbya attitude of an awfully large section of the American left to be it's undoing. Furthermore, this isn't partisan, as I'm attacking an ideology, not a party.

There is a thing on your t.v. set. It is called the channel changer. Use it.

ruveyn

Some people, mainly those with any degree of concern for politics, like to sample the propoganda the opposite side offers. Even if it's grating, it's a job that must be done.

Not to mention there is a legitimate concern in countering what is being presented by the "other side." It is not simply a matter of "if you don't like it ignore it" when misinformation causes a large portion of the electorate to vote in ways that you believe will harm the country in general or yourself in particular.

I think Inu and Pedant should each apply to their respective parties propaganda factories, maybe take this game elsewhere?

I can comment on this, but the others need a working TV to see.

I so agree with this. Whenever I go onto a website that has a lot of Republicans (I'm a Democrat), I often hear "Get rid of Medicare!" and "Enviromentalism hurts business!"
It's like they think that everybody who is poor is lazy and that it 'hurts' business if they are made to abide by environmental laws. Also many of them think Bush can do no wrong and praise him like he craps gold because he says he's a Christian, and they ignore some of his more 'questionable' stuff. I can't stand Bush, I can't stand their worship of him even though he's been out of office for several years, and I can't stand their mixing of politics with religion.

I also agree on the 'persecution complex.' Unless someone is specifically discriminating against them for their Christian beliefs or forcing them to participate in something that goes against their beliefs (and not allowing them to 'bow out' peacefully) then they aren't being persecuted. I am a Christian myself, and I have to roll my eyes every time I hear how Christians are being 'persecuted' in America. If we were really being 'persecuted,' we'd be hunted down and stuck in jail just for having a Bible, and we'd not be allowed to have church worship.

You meant:

3. Fox news exposure syndrome.

Didn't that thing used to be called (and maybe even be) a "dial?"

There are some pretty funny elements of ikorack's emotional, holier than thou, reply/outburst.

1) The fact he references parties where the OP never once discusses political parties.
2) The fact he seems to miss the semi-satrical, deliberately copying the form of Inuyasha's original post to, in some ways, set the record straight.
3) The way he thinks taking a "game" elsewhere would somehow be beneficial - the "game" is ubiquitous in politics, be it on the comments section in a news article or in the halls of the legisalture.

I didn't think it was so emotional. This game is boring, it would be better somewhere else. I understood it was deliberate it was however uncreative and unentertaining. You two have been propagatin the same old arguments, inu has been told off enough times to know what he needs to change to have any impact here he ignores it so he should be ignored not responded too. You however enjoy him too much(easy target and all) it would be better if you just let his threads die instead of multiplying their presence with your attempts to set some record no ones paying attention too straight. I treated Conservatives as a party as thats how you where treating them in your post, I will not believe you are too dense too understand that. Maybe there could be more interesting discussions concerning politics in this forum if it wasn't the same stagnant attacks over and over again.

A particular problem with Inuyasha is he just makes stuff up about individual posters (take, for instance, his claim that Orwell believes America is the source of all evil in the world - a straight up lie).

I'm just going off of his comments and made a comment based on what he said which leads one to believe that he thinks the US is the source of all evil. If you don't like that fact, tough.

Furthermore, your holier than thou routine is laughable, I at least post sources, I rarely see you or any of your fellow liberals post sources when they claim stuff. Or if they post sources, it is from known left-wing partisan hack sites with next to know credibility or sites from people whom are under investigation for tampering with scientific data.

Am I extremely confrontational and have the diplomatic tact of a nuclear missile, sure. However, I can at least recognize that fact, something that it appears you are unable or unwilling to do.

You see Conservatives and Republicans as intolerant, when in fact they aren't the intolerant ones. Your arrogant condecending attitude makes it so Conservatives think you are just an arrogant narcististic elitist.



Calling conservatives con-artists demonstrates that you are the individual that is intolerant. You deliberately misrepresent conservatives to further your own agenda in order to attempt to silence people you don't agree with.

The really hilarious part is in your opening post you kinda proved me right while denying the problem the left has throughout the entire post.

I have explained this to you a dozen times before, but it is apparently no use. You constantly ascribe ludicrous motives to people who disagree with you because you are under the delusion that the truth of your position is so obvious that someone would have to be outright evil to deny it. The same with your ridiculous claim that I "love" Stalin and Communism. I hate both.


Inuyasha, someday we're going to have to explain the concept of irony to you. You have never posted any source that is not known as being a partisan conservative outlet, and you have even posted from fringe right-wing blogs to attack the credibility of sources that are widely acknowledged as nonpartisan.


Pot and kettle, Inuyasha. Pot and freaking kettle.