Do animals have souls?

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30 Dec 2009, 1:02 pm

Do you think animals have souls? How about humans? If you believe humans have souls, then why wouldn't all animals have souls?

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30 Dec 2009, 1:05 pm

Because humans are animals anyway and not distinct, then it would seem logical that either all animals (including humans) have souls, or no animals / humans have souls. I opt for the latter.

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30 Dec 2009, 1:07 pm

good logic...

I believe we all have spirit/souls.

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30 Dec 2009, 1:18 pm

The Bible says "soul" = "breath of life."

As far as soul = eternal life force that continues after physical death, there's nothing saying that even humans have that.

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30 Dec 2009, 1:27 pm

Magnus wrote:

good logic...

I believe we all have spirit/souls.

It all depends on how you define spirit or soul. My previous answer was way too simplistic in relation to my true views / perception on the matter (as you may gather from my sig line), but I've never attempted to communicate those views on this forum because frankly I think most people either would not be interested or that what I want to communicate is so alien to them that they wouldn't understand what I'm saying anyway. Maybe one day I'll have a go.

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30 Dec 2009, 1:46 pm

TallyMan wrote:

Magnus wrote:

good logic...

I believe we all have spirit/souls.

please communicate your views, I really want to hear them.

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30 Dec 2009, 1:49 pm

TallyMan wrote:

Magnus wrote:

good logic...

I believe we all have spirit/souls.

You should, I'm already quite interested in what you have to say. If it's well thought out, and especially if it's as foreign as you indicate, it's more than worth reading. If someone doesn't understand, it's their loss. But some people might, and it's for them you'd share, those willing to listen.

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30 Dec 2009, 1:50 pm

TallyMan wrote:

Magnus wrote:

good logic...

I believe we all have spirit/souls.

I'd like to hear your beliefs. It is healthy to be able to digest different ideas and not cling to our own beliefs, I believe. :lol:

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30 Dec 2009, 1:58 pm

Magnus wrote:

TallyMan wrote:

Magnus wrote:

good logic...

I believe we all have spirit/souls.

I'd like to hear your beliefs. It is healthy to be able to digest different ideas and not cling to our own beliefs, I believe. :lol:

Hehe, your wording is quite playful, nice.

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30 Dec 2009, 1:58 pm

Blimey! OK, I'll try to put my views / perception together in a coherent form and start a fresh thread. It may take me a day or two though. It is difficult to find the right words.

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30 Dec 2009, 1:59 pm

TallyMan wrote:

Blimey! OK, I'll try to put my views / perception together in a coherent form and start a fresh thread. It may take me a day or two though. It is difficult to find the right words.

Sounds good!

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30 Dec 2009, 7:01 pm

Since the concept of a soul is very ancient and extremely ill defined one might wonder if a virus has a soul.

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30 Dec 2009, 8:27 pm

Magnus wrote:

Do you think animals have souls? How about humans? If you believe humans have souls, then why wouldn't all animals have souls?

Animals have no souls Humans are animals, therefore ......

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31 Dec 2009, 12:45 am

In biblical terms, most land dwelling air breathing creatures are "living souls", or "nephesh chayah".

Speaking personally, my parrots have been my best friends for nearly a decade, and they seem like they have the same kind of life I do. I don't want to get into the argument about whether souls exist, so prepare to be ignored if you bother to debate me on it.

Anyways, here are some clips and photos of my birds, Patricia, Picasso, Pavarotti, Peter, Pepper, Piper, and Havilah.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi_4L5TJSMM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-od7i5rrEBw[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeeYWwvnbJI[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AL3q2du4T0[/youtube]