Why is everyone named the same in the New Testament?

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02 Feb 2011, 6:45 am

Why is everyone in parts of the New Testament named the same? For example, there are
three Marys in the gospel. There are two different persons named Lazarus in the New Testament/the gospel. Why no last names? In the Old and New Testament there are a number of Josephs. Why no originality? Why is everyone named George Foreman 1,2,3,4, etc. or Dr. Evil/Mini-Me or George Bush, Sr, vs George Bush, Jr.? In Europe, there were kings who kept adding digits to their names, like King Louis the XIV. Why this need for repetition and lack of inventiveness - especially in the New Testament? Why did Jesus Christ break from tradition? Why wasn't Jesus Christ named God, Jr. to contrast him with his Father, God, Sr.? Well, technically some claim Jesus Christ's dad was a Holy invisible Ghost and not God, Sr. - God, Sr. who created the world in six days and also appeared as a Burning Bush in the desert (likely in Egypt). Also, since God, Sr. invented Adam from scratch (a little like the father of Pinocchio created his son, Pinocchio, from a tree limb), that would make Adam God's 1st son - so why does Jesus Christ claim he's God's one and only son when it's clear Adam is God's first son (from the Bible/Genesis written by Moses)?

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02 Feb 2011, 6:57 am

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Why is everyone in parts of the New Testament named the same? For example, there are three Marys in the gospel. There are two different persons named Lazarus in the New Testament/the gospel. Why no last names? In the Old and New Testament there are a number of Josephs. Why no originality? Why is everyone named George Foreman 1,2,3,4, etc. or Dr. Evil/Mini-Me or George Bush, Sr, vs George Bush, Jr.? In Europe, there were kings who kept adding digits to their names, like King Louis the XIV. Why this need for repetition and lack of inventiveness - especially in the New Testament? Why did Jesus Christ break from tradition? Why wasn't Jesus Christ named God, Jr. to contrast that his Father, God, Sr.? Also, since God, Sr. invented Adam from scratch (a little like the father of Pinocchio created his son, Pinocchio, from a tree limb), that would make Adam God's 1st son - so why does Jesus Christ claim he's God's one and only son when it's clear Adam is God first son. (Is Adam God's first son according to the Bible? Yes).

You're a crackup :lol:

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02 Feb 2011, 7:04 am

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You're a crackup :lol:

Agreed. Pissing off Christians FTW!! :lol:

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02 Feb 2011, 7:23 am

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You're a crackup :lol:

Agreed. Pissing off Christians FTW!! :lol:

If there's one good thing about Christians staying Christians for the rest of their lives, it's that I get to have guaranteed fun with them about their beliefs.

Christians are fun, man. Really fun.

As long as you don't let them brainwash you ...

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02 Feb 2011, 8:19 am

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Why is everyone in parts of the New Testament named the same?

The more complex a lie, the harder it is to keep it straight.

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Christians are fun, man. Really fun.

As long as you don't let them brainwash you ...

I can't see that ever happening. The most eloquent advocates I have ever seen for religion are on WP, but out in the real world advocates fall into the catagory of rambling schizophrenics and ruthless evangelist con-artists. We have a few crazed preachers here in Galway ourselves, they're hilarious. I thought streetpreach was an exclusively American phenomena.

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02 Feb 2011, 8:30 am

ryan93 wrote:

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Why is everyone in parts of the New Testament named the same?

The more complex a lie, the harder it is to keep it straight.

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Christians are fun, man. Really fun.

As long as you don't let them brainwash you ...

Actually, its probably more an indication that the Bible is true, after all, if it was made up lies, you wouldnt give everyone the same name would you, whos going to belive that?,

In Poland, it seems nearly all girls are called Anna, you can see why Jesus didnt chose Poland to be born in, nobody would belive him!

At work Ive been in the situation where I have worked with 5 other men, all called Dave, of course this must be evidence that I dont actually have a job, right?

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02 Feb 2011, 8:38 am

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Actually, its probably more an indication that the Bible is true, after all, if it was made up lies, you wouldnt give everyone the same name would you, whos going to belive that?

Here is a parable from yee olde book of south park quotes

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God: Saddam, I've been hearing rumors that you're secretly building weapons of mass destruction up here.
Saddam Hussein: Weapons of mass destruction? No! This is a chocolate chip factory. See?
God: It looks like a chemical weapons plant.
Saddam Hussein: Look, God, if I was gonna secretly build a chemical weapons plant, I wouldn't make it look like a chemical weapons plant, would I? I'd make it look like a chocolate chip factory or something.
God: Alright, just checking. (leaves)
Saddam Hussein: Stupid a**hole.

Convert ye sinners!!

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02 Feb 2011, 9:06 am

READ the phonebook - maybe especially if you live in Reykjavik - take a deep breath, take another of your pills and give it a rest - you are going dippy again.

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02 Feb 2011, 9:11 am

In the Gospel of Luke, Everybody threw a fit because John that baptists's parents didn't name John after anybody in the family. That was just the way things where done back then.

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02 Feb 2011, 10:44 am

About surnames:People in most of the world didnt have last names back then.

The ancient Romans seem to have invented the idea of first and last names, but in the dark ages the only Europeans who had both first and last names were Kings and nobles.

Even in the early Renaissance it was unusual for commoners to have last names.

The famous artist/inventor/genius was named "Leonardo". He did NOT come from a family named "DaVinci". That was just an appallation stuck on to his name meaning " of the town of Vinci" to distinquish him from all of the other Leonardos around..

The book shouldve been called "The Leonardo Code".

Latter in the Rennaisance it finnally did become the norm for commoners to have last names. Typically you were named after your occupation- hense all of the Schnieders (german for taylor), smiths, carters, and shepards in the phone book.

Why the pausity of FIRST names in the Bible I couldnt say.
It is especially interesting that all of the ladies in Jesus's life were named "Mary" for some reason. The name "Mary" means "of the sea" in latin. Maybe there is some hidden or lost meaning in all of that.

But it seems like half of the population of the two Koreas have the word "Kim" as either a surname or as a family name ( the family name comes first in East Asia).

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02 Feb 2011, 10:45 am

MCalavera wrote:

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Why is everyone in parts of the New Testament named the same? For example, there are three Marys in the gospel. There are two different persons named Lazarus in the New Testament/the gospel. Why no last names? In the Old and New Testament there are a number of Josephs. Why no originality? Why is everyone named George Foreman 1,2,3,4, etc. or Dr. Evil/Mini-Me or George Bush, Sr, vs George Bush, Jr.? In Europe, there were kings who kept adding digits to their names, like King Louis the XIV. Why this need for repetition and lack of inventiveness - especially in the New Testament? Why did Jesus Christ break from tradition? Why wasn't Jesus Christ named God, Jr. to contrast that his Father, God, Sr.? Also, since God, Sr. invented Adam from scratch (a little like the father of Pinocchio created his son, Pinocchio, from a tree limb), that would make Adam God's 1st son - so why does Jesus Christ claim he's God's one and only son when it's clear Adam is God first son. (Is Adam God's first son according to the Bib

You're a crackup :lol:

pot is spelled p-o-t not u-p.

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02 Feb 2011, 10:52 am

Why is everyone in Australia named Bruce?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0CgPeyA[/youtube]

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02 Feb 2011, 11:30 am

And why is every man in Wales named Davie?

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02 Feb 2011, 12:52 pm

Old testament names are very popular in the USA

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/babynames/

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02 Feb 2011, 1:20 pm

ryan93 wrote:

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Why is everyone in parts of the New Testament named the same?

The more complex a lie, the harder it is to keep it straight.

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Christians are fun, man. Really fun.

As long as you don't let them brainwash you ...

Streetpreaching? Try being stuck on a bus with one of those guys.

I'd guess that there are plenty of advocates in your area, but they're busy with soup kitchens and the like...more of us could do with less time to talk.

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Streetpreaching? Try being stuck on a bus with one of those guys. I'd guess that there are plenty of advocates in your area, but they're busy with soup kitchens and the like...more of us could do with less time to talk.

I have been, it's not as funny when they are sitting next to you spewing saliva akin to Vodka in your face with every prophetic announcement :lol:

. There are advocates, but the ones I've seen in college are rather poorly educated religiously compared to the WP guys, or even the American populace (I'd say 90% of "catholics" here haven't read the bible). I like to think that Atheists volunteer to, I know my local SkepticSoc is playing a big part in this years charity week.

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