An Immodest Proposal: Hissing and Dissing - what's missing?

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Philologos
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12 Feb 2011, 9:38 am

That title should get people peeoing at this.

We have noted that the arteries of free discussion in this so free for all forum are often clogged with the gooey plaque of those who have more spleen to vent than content, not being content.

We have noted that, for example, the Haven supplies dedicated threads for Rants and for Raves - http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt28605.html
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http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt41408.html
if I copied and pasted correctly.

It has been argued that the religiosi should not have an exclusive forum, whether for the advanced reason that exclusivity is bad [please join in the group activity, don't just sit and read] or because of the cynical argument that the subpontics will just sneak in and foul the nest anyway.

So - why not a thread just for all the -issing activities? Then we can save the other threads for real discusion [But how, sir, do you reconcile Believer Baptism with Acts 16?] or for authentic sumo wrestling on the probability of a spontaneous universe or whatever?

Come, let us reason together:

I will start it off by dissing the atheists:

We all know the people who most loudly proclaim their atheism are closet theists who are ashamed of not being with it

Refute THAT.



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12 Feb 2011, 9:44 am

Philologos wrote:
We all know the people who most loudly proclaim their atheism are closet theists who are ashamed of not being with it

I would say such folks are self-deceived, -disillusioned or -deluded ... except for the ones here on WP, of course.


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12 Feb 2011, 10:01 am

leejosepho wrote:
Philologos wrote:
We all know the people who most loudly proclaim their atheism are closet theists who are ashamed of not being with it

I would say such folks are self-deceived, -disillusioned or -deluded ... except for the ones here on WP, of course.


I say that goes DOUBLE for WP atheists, and TREBLE for WP theists!



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12 Feb 2011, 10:04 am

pandabear wrote:
I say that goes DOUBLE for WP atheists, and TREBLE for WP theists!

Well then, at least some of us have put a bit more effort into the matter.


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12 Feb 2011, 12:32 pm

pandabear wrote:
leejosepho wrote:
Philologos wrote:
We all know the people who most loudly proclaim their atheism are closet theists who are ashamed of not being with it

I would say such folks are self-deceived, -disillusioned or -deluded ... except for the ones here on WP, of course.


I say that goes DOUBLE for WP atheists, and TREBLE for WP theists!


I am puzzled - if you are NOT a theist - or are you saying you are? - why get into denominational distinctives?

If I were going to attack / critique Transformationalism - which I might at any time - I would go straight to the basics and not differentiate Chomsky - Path to Glory from Son of Chomsky.



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12 Feb 2011, 12:49 pm

There should be a no holds barred section of the forum.



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12 Feb 2011, 12:56 pm

Call it 'The Cage'


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12 Feb 2011, 1:09 pm

Vigilans wrote:
Call it 'The Cage'
UFC and pride ain't got nothin on it. This is the real deal boys.



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12 Feb 2011, 1:30 pm

Oops.


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12 Feb 2011, 1:30 pm

I want a clean fight- no foreign objects. That includes the use of the Bible as a blunt weapon, gentlemen


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12 Feb 2011, 1:37 pm

Vigilans wrote:
I want a clean fight- no foreign objects. That includes the use of the Bible as a blunt weapon, gentlemen


What about the Club of Reason?


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12 Feb 2011, 1:50 pm

leejosepho -

nu, nu, nay, nay, I was addressing my question to pandabear, not you.

Your position is fairly clearly set out and I have not seen thou levelling broadsided [in either sense] at the doctrines of this or that Christian subset.

pandabear, however, since he first swam into the field of my scanning electron microscope, has been a puzzlement as to where he stands and how if at all anything he says relateth thereunto.

No doubt a flaw in my software, but 'tis sooth.



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12 Feb 2011, 1:54 pm

Natty_Boh wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
I want a clean fight- no foreign objects. That includes the use of the Bible as a blunt weapon, gentlemen


What about the Club of Reason?


Not that again.

Anyway to put it bluntly to the Watchman - not Watchmaker - to the eye of faith the bible is NOT a blunt weapon, Far from it, the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any
twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow. That was the perception of the correspondent with the Hebrews, whether he be, as some would have it, Saul alias Paul or nay.



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12 Feb 2011, 2:01 pm

Philologos wrote:
the bible is NOT a blunt weapon ...
the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than ...

... and what might be the relationship between the two?


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12 Feb 2011, 2:05 pm

Ah - well may you ask, and right blithely would I discourse with thee, the mo [that is archaism not up to day slangy] that by thy seemingly mild question thou betrayest a quick and sneaky wit.

But if I try to designate this for Diss, it is not the place for serious discourse.

So, come with me for a moment over here where Pooh Bah can't hear us.



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12 Feb 2011, 2:36 pm

Natty_Boh wrote:
What about the Club of Reason?

Lol, there are even atheists out there who criticize the overuse of that one. Good example: John Ralston Saul's 'Votaire's Bastards: Dictatorship of Reason in the West'.