Attention Lutherans. Please read this

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Hello Lutherans. Here is what your Founding Father had to say about the Jews.

http://www.humanitas-international.org/ ... r-jews.htm


It is no wonder that this lovely man was granted an honorary membership in the NSDAP along with Richard Wagner.

ruveyn

Item: that has nothing to do with the +/- validity of Luther's reforms.

Item: that is not built into any of the credal and constitutional documents of any variety of the Lutheran family

Item. Luther was a grumpy confrontational boor and jerk - which any informed Lutheran will realize. My mother began Lutheran, and she would agree. I have not noted among Lutherans - who are plentiful around here - any bigtime veneration of the guy. He is no Muhammad.

I wonder why he has to much to say about circumcision?

Anyway, if the Lutheran church doesn't venerate Luther, then why are they called "Lutheran?"

If you really don't know, why not look it up?

Americans do not venerate Amerigo Vespucci.

Mennonites do not venerate Menno Simons

Israelites do not venerate Jacob alias Israel.

Virginians do not venerate Queen Elizabeth I of England.

Presbyterians do not venerate presbyters.

You can expand the list if you choose. Tasmanians, Luddites, Freudians ....

Yes, Christians DO venerate the Christ, and I am pretty sure Buddhists at least put special value on the Buddha.

But - if you do not know you will easily check me - Lutherans are called that because outsiders saw them as following Luther's lead and he may not unreasonably be called their founder.

Last I heard on home ground in Germany were not getting called after Luther, but labelled Evangelisch. But there I may be wronfg or seriously out of date.

For that matter, the way it is put in Acts strongly suggests thet the Christians were named from outside.

Like the Eskimo, who to themselves are just plain folks [look up INUK some time].

Lutheran churches do have big signs that proclaim themselves to be Lutherans. As far as I know, there aren't outsiders going around putting up these signs.

Wesleyans venerate John Wesley.

The term "Christian" was once used as an insult. Eventually, the negative connotations were less so and it was used by the people to identify themselves. The same with the title "Lutheran". This happens quite a bit with religious labels. The term "pagan" is another example. This used to be quite derogatory. I know many people who are proud to call themselves "Pagan" now.

I've never attended a Wesleyan church, but I did study at a Christian college. Never in Church History studies did I come across any special treatment of John Wesley. John Wesley isn't mentioned in the Wesleyan statement of beliefs. In fact, it seems many (not all) church attenders today know very little about the people from where their denomination's teachings came. The more well known of denominations Wesley influenced, the Methodists, certainly do not venerate him. Some colleges have a statue of him somewhere on their grounds for historical purposes, but that's about as acknowledged as I've seen him.

Most of what Panda Monium alleges has to be buried under a truckload or rock salt - though not everything, I believe.

Okay, you are right

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutheranism

I have attended a Lutheran church many times. I have never even heard Martin Luther's name mentioned. I've never heard a single word of hate toward them despite the fact that I was Jewish before converting to Christianity. I find Lutherans to be a generally tolerant and loving people. Martin Luther, on the other hand, was a fallible human being who struggled with his own issues of mental illness.